Do people use Central authentication Service (CAS) on Banking / financial service projects ? Is it a reliable framework for production use.
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The user details are stored on Active Directory but it is not related to windows logon.
We have around 5 different related web application (separate wars) which may have common users. We are planing to implement one common web application which takes care of the login mechanism using spring security. And this application would pass the Spring security context to all other web apps which would also use spring security.
Along with this we also use 2 factor authentication.
After making some searches it seems CAS would help to achieve SSO (along with Spring Security) but I am just trying to ensure if it can be used in a Financial services projects production system ??
Note there are two major types of Single Sign-On (SSO).
There is what I call "Enterprise SSO" which uses the Mircosoft Active Directoy credentials the user used to log into their workstation to also access other resources like websites using the builtin SSO feature of browsers like IE. The underlying protocol used is Kerberos or NTLMv2 (aka SPNEGO to NEGOtiate Kerberos or NTLMv2). This makes it true "single" sign on because the user only enters their password once when they log into their workstation. There are not many solutions that can do this type of SSO. Obviously IIS with IWA turned on is one.
Then there are numerous other solutions for websites that actually redirect the client to another central website that authenticates the client and then redirects them back to the original site with some kind of token. This type of SSO is commonly used on the Internet (like when you log into stackexchange using your google credentials) but it is also not entirely uncommon in an enterprise environment. It is popular in academic institutions where students use whatever computer they can find and aren't logged in with domain credentials in the first place.
So in an enterprise environment like a bank / financial institution my opinion is that "Enterprise SSO" is the most direct and therefore superior solution. With the non-Enterprise SSO solution the authentication step usually requires a password so it's not really true SSO. You have to log into the workstation and then also login to the SSO central website and then you have access to any sites that participate in that particular SSO solution. And it requires running an extra service.
But don't Google for "Enterprise SSO" because everything is marketed as "Enterprise". Use search terms like "Kerberos", "NTLMv2", "Active Directory" in concert with "SSO" and your server programming environment.
I work for a huge company in Germany (not the one currently listed in my profile), with 300k+ eployees. We use CAS for a number of applications but our main strategy is SAML. The main reason for SAML is the "front channel" - you can reliably pass assertions via browser.
This has huge advantages in a large enterprise since very often parts of the network are firewalled so the "back channel" solutions (like CAS) don't always work.
With SAML, you could for instance use a completely external service like Salesforce with your company's SAML identity provider. Almost out of the box.
Please note that my production knowledge of CAS is ~4 years old. I might be wrong about the "back channel" for CAS, please recheck that.
Ok, few further insight related to your question update.
We use AD as user directory too.
Our identity provider (basically where you login) implements x-factor auth (SMS and token services).
We use standard SAML solutions, we don't implement proprietary things.
Sorry I did not mention it before - I'm not in finance/banking but we have apps in a very wide range of security requirements.
I know peopla who use CAS in the financial sector. Howere, it's not the subject area that matters, it's seqcurity requirements that matter.
I have had positive experience with Spring Security in the past, but it is not the tech of choice in the current company (more JBoss).
CAS is surely a good thing and will definitely work. However it's normally not the technology which fails it's how you use it in context. If you don't have extensive experience, in the area, get a consulting or a professional pentest. Too many things can be done "a little bit wrong" and lead to severe consequences.
I'm writing all this - and I'm even not a security professional, I'm an architect who designs these apps to fulfill (among magnitude of other things) their security requirements.
I'm the Chairman of CAS and founder of CAS in the cloud (https://www.casinthecloud.com).
CAS is a web SSO and it supports Kerberos and SPNEGO. So yes, it can be an Enterprise SSO as well.
CAS is production ready: for a big company, I use it for millions of users and hundred of websites.
I'm not sure to fully agree with the "back channel" / "front channel" stuffs. SAML is a standard for federation so if you have two main organizations with their own SAML IdP, you'll be able to federate identities. For other use cases, I prefer CAS which is far more simple and has a large community with a lot of CAS clients.
You normally use a SSO inside a large organization. It allows members of the organization to login into any internal application with same credentials with a single place for password management. But in this use case, the organization has full control on the CAS server and can be confident in it.
OAuth is obviously a godsend when it comes to doing single-sign on, although there are doubtless headaches involved in merging different applications' user databases, but we also have a customer requirement to support Active Directory. Can anyone suggest any suitable architectures (or indeed resources/information on the web) for having multiple websites achieve single sign on, using both OAuth and Active Directory? It's conceivable that one domain could be set to be either one or the other, but the ideal would be that we cope with both (e.g. attempt AD auth and fallback to OAuth if not, perhaps?).
We're a primarily Java-based development house, with rich-client web front-ends. We do use EC2 for some of our apps, but also host on our own servers. Ideally any solution would not care about the location of the application itself.
All suggestions and opinions welcome.
You might consider some form of identity federation using SAML-P or WS-Federation.
ADFS in Server 2012 R2 comes with OAuth2 support. Or you could look into AuthorizationServer.
But it might be worth reading this, first. Good luck!
LDAP vs MYSQL.. JA-SIG CAS with LDAP vs CAS with MySQL.
Right now we have user id, password and roles in LDAP and is working with CAS and Spring Secuirty. My firm is looking to remove the data from LDAP and to put it into MySQL. I would love to hear comments on why we should stay with LDAP.
LDAP is a directory service. It's primary purpose for existence is as a repository of security information. Trying to store this same kind of information in MySQL would basically mean replicating alot of the functionality that LDAP already provides. Typically you see corporations migrating from custom database solutions to directory services - not the other way around.
More systems, particularly legacy systems, especially on Unix, can easily use LDAP as their credential store. If you use or plan to use any of those systems, you can gain the benefit of a single source of truth and offer your users a shared credential (i.e. same username/password) across these systems.
Interfacing with SQL systems in this regard is not as prevalent.
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Warning! I'm on a bit of a fishing trip here, and I'm not even sure if the questions that I'm asking entirely make sense. Please be kind with your responses! :)
I recently took over a project that is currently based on a Java + Linux + Tomcat + MySQL. Right now, the system is basically just a website with a few cron jobs in the back-ground to move some data around, etc. In working with the product manager to develop a prioritized backlog, it’s clear from what he wants to do that I need to start developing a service-oriented architecture (SOA <-- buzz word warning!), and I will end up with a blend of web servers and application servers. Note: I’m strongly considering moving to Glassfish v3.
Currently, authentication and authorizations are handled in Java code with user information being stored in the MySQL database. At the bare minimum, it seems to me that I will need to split this out into a separate authentication service (otherwise, will end up with a bunch of duplicate code all over the place to handle user authentication and authorizations).
I’ve been looking into single sign-on (SSO) type solutions and doing some research. From what I can gather, OpenSSO has been officially dropped by Oracle, but picked up by ForgeRock and now is called OpenAM. This appears to be very close to what I want, but since I already have a MySQL-based system, I would prefer to have something that supports it (or some other kind of RDBMS). I found this on Stack Overflow and it seems to indicate that it’s basically LDAP or nothing.
Is there a way to make OpenSSO/OpenAM talk to Database for its authentication and authorization?
My questions are:
What other options are out there to OpenSSO/OpenAM? Is LDAP the way to go? Note: doing a “OpenAM vs” google search doesn’t yield much. Do people tend to just “roll their own”?
Any thoughts/suggestions/links on this topic that will help educate me will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance for your patience and help.
Are you integrating existing applications, or do you just want to support your own applications?
Are you looking for actual SSO or simply shared credentials? SSO is logging in to a single application, and having that credential propagate to another application (such as logging in to Gmail and being automatically logged in to Blogger). Shared credential is you can use the same login name and password across applications, but the credential itself is not automatically propagated.
LDAP is a common system used to manage a shared credential. Many systems allow you to point their authentication store to an existing LDAP server.
For example, if you had several apps deployed in a Java EE container, and also, say, an email server and web based email client, all of these diverse applications could be pointed to the same LDAP server and your users would have a single login and password for all of the different systems, all written in different languages, all deployed on different machines. This is a bread and butter use case of LDAP, and pretty much every system can handle this out of the box. Glassfish and Tomcat can both readily validate against an LDAP server. So can Apache (Web server), Postgres (Database), Postfix (email), etc. etc.
So if you want simply a shared credential, you get that "for free", right now, by installing an LDAP server. LDAP is a bit of a different beast than something like a DBMS, but once you study it a little and "get it", it's really quite nice. OpenLDAP is a popular LDAP server, but I'm partial to ApacheDS.
The way to set that up in a Java EE container is to set up a "Realm". GF and Tomcat both have LDAP realms out of the box, I imagine the rest do to. But the nut there is that you need to use Java EE security to leverage the Realm.
See, the detail with a Java EE Realm is that it's an aspect of the CONTAINER, not the application. Just like a connection pool is a container resource that your application leverages. Most people want security to be a part of their application, where they feel they have more control over it.
That's all well and good until you start getting a bunch of different applications and everyone is configured differently and has separate user lists, and password policies, etc. etc.
LDAP can fix a lot of that, since you configure them all to use the same credential store.
The Realm fills that need on a Java EE server. Your application is configured to use a Realm provided by the container. If you have several applications, and a single Realm, then they all get to share the credentials within that Realm (regardless of the Realm type).
Realms can be anything: file based, db based, LDAP, etc. Realms also cluster if the container clusters (which can be handy).
The dark side of Java EE security, and why most apps avoid it is that, since, again, the Realm is part of the container, and not the application, it can be a little ungainly to use, and perhaps not offer the features you like in terms of user management, password policies, etc.
But the bright side of Java EE security is that once you're under its umbrella, you can leverage the credential all over in your code easily. A person logs in to the web site, and that credential can be used there in the web app, or automatically propagated back to the EJB tier (ever a remote EJB tier), and the information is always handy.
You can point your web apps at a realm, you EJBs, your web services. They all leverage the same pieces.
In order to get kind of the best of both worlds is to leverage container specific mechanisms to access the containers security. This is the other dark side of Java EE security.
Things like Realms, and direct access to container security are not portable across containers. GF does it different than Tomcat does it different from WebLogic. It's all really close, but differs in details so your code won't port seamlessly.
The bright side is for in house apps, most folks simply leverage the container they have, put a reasonable abstraction around the container dependent code, and call it day noting that yes, they will have to port this if and when they move to a different container. But, in practice. much like a database, once a container platform is chosen, folks tend to snuggle in tight and stick with it.
Finally, Servlet 3.0 (In GF3 and Tomcat 7) standardizes more of the programmatic login issues to make them more portable across containers, but the underlying concepts are the same.
Now, SSO.
SSO is a different beast. But, out the gate, both GF and Tomcat support SSO for web apps. This lets you log in to one web app and have be able to easily access others without having to log in to them. But the SSO is a little bit limited since it relies more heavily on the container security and its lifecycle, rather than a more flexible one under the control of the application. Mind, not just on Realms (that's a given), but on the actual container based FORM login, rather than a custom programmatic login. FORM login is not spectacular, but it's functional and it works. Implement a Realm, deploy your apps to a single instance of Tomcat or GF (or a cluster in GF 3.1), and you get SSO for free, so if that's important, it's kind of nice really. It's usability is fine for back office apps, but not perhaps the public internet.
If you want a more sophisticated SSO solution, then you need look at custom implementations. OpenSSO is one of those, and it relies on SAML and the SAML web profile. However, there are others. There's CAS, Atlassian Cloud, Kerberos, and OAuth as well. Those are all using different protocols than SAML. If you want to stick with SAML you can also look at Shibboleth, or even SimpleSAML (SimpleSAML is a PHP server that acts as a SAML Identity Provider, among other things, but you still need a Service Provider within your applications).
Whatever protocol you choose, the process is basically the same (detailed here -- Cross Domain Login - How to login a user automatically when transferred from one domain to another).
But the devil is in the details. And, boy, are there devils.
All of these systems are complicated. SSO is complicated. For example, now that you have Single Sign On, what about Single Sign Out? What about Single Time Out? What about credential changes while users are logged in? What about an STS (Secure Token Service) for your Web Services? (STS offers a similar delegated authentication mechanism for web services.)
SAML introduces you to a whole lot of new vocabulary, and a lot of configuration. It's not readily picked up since the documentation isn't stellar and relies a lot on standards documents which talk to a higher level of generic things, and not to you and your application specifically.
If you don't need really need SSO, then you'll likely be content with something like a central LDAP store and going on from there.
All that said, as an example, our applications support both a DB and LDAP backend. They use Glassfish, and Java EE security. We completely control the user experience. We also support SSO via SAML (we wrote our own Identity and Service Providers), and we have both shared credentials via LDAP and SSO across Java and other applications, using our code and third party code. The bright side is this is all standards based. The dark side is that standards are communicated in english, and english is subject to interpretation.
I say this simply to say it can be done. I have also written ad hoc, back of the napkin SSO implementations, both same domain and cross domain (same domain is simple with a shared cookie) using simple Servlet Filters. Password policies, password recovery, keep alive timers, multiple window timeout and session management (that's a hoot), roles, privileges, etc. etc. Been there, done that.
Also, I would be remiss to not mention Spring and Spring Security which offers all of this on top of Spring. I have not used it (I'm not a Spring person), but those folks do know what they are doing so it's worth looking at.
Please note that "Is there a way to make OpenSSO/OpenAM talk to Database for its authentication and authorization?" is phrased wrong. The question details and answers only deal with the authorization aspect. OpenAM works great with a MySQL database of users and passwords (authentication), and can use it's hidden/embedded LDAP server for storing policies and other settings.
It sounds like you still need to flesh out your security model, but you will likely find you do not need something like OpenAM at all, and can just use container/framework provided security.
This list might provide a good starting point:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_single_sign-on_implementations
with JOSSO and Shibboleth springing to mind.
OpenAM has two separate stores, a User Store, where users and all the accompanying properties are stored and a Configuration Store, which holds the configuration. There is a database User Store, which is available in OpenAM however I have never tried it. The SO question you were pointing to was referring primarily to the config store, which while LDAP only, is embedded in OpenAM (so doesn't require direct management).
Personally I am a fan of Tomcat over Glassfish, as it is a fast and light Servlet container, without all the associated bloat which goes with a full J2EE container.
You can use OpenAm with RDBMs. I am using JBDC based user store in OpenAm
OpenAM seems to have the ability to plug in your own authentication module.
Presumably, you can make your DB calls from within your extentsion of the AMLoginModule.
I have successfully build a custom user repository for OpenAm. Since this question have not been active for a while and because it would be too long to describe in details here how to do it, I will just give a few hints. If you need help on specifics, fell free to ask me.
Your basic entry point needs to extends com.sun.identity.idm.IdRepo.
You need to register your custom repository using ssoadm.jsp?cmd=add-sub-schema.
From this point, your repository type will be listed among the other types when you create a data store for a realm.
Good luck !
How the best way to create a single sign-on for many JSP applications using Tomcat server?
One possibility is to use Tomcats build in SSO mechanism:
http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-5.5-doc/config/host.html#Single_Sign_On
A more generic, but still easy to use approach is CAS (Central Authentication Service):
http://www.jasig.org/cas
It's also open source.
Kerberos is the perfect fit if you want to do Integrated Windows SSO within a corporate environment. (Means, user authenticated to a Microsoft Windows system are automatically logged in to kerberized web applications). For a lot of other use cases it doesn't fit at all.
There is no general "best way" when it comes to SSO for web applications, but maybe one that fits best for your specific requirements. Maybe you can explaing them in a bit more detail?
btw why the heck are you still using Tomcat 5.5?
Have you looked at Tomcat valve?
Look here.
https://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-5.5-doc/config/valve.html#Single_Sign_On_Valve
You need to extend this valve to make it meet your custom requirement. If you need help, let me know.
Authenticating agains a Kerberos Server. You can do that with JAAS and Kerberos 5 JAAS Module.