For example, when I extract from a database a Date() variable, it contains a date with "+04:00" shift.
According to my locale's settings.
So, UTC time is "ourTime" MINUS 4 hours.
Then, a user tells where he/she is from. Now, we need to save his/her shift.
LET'S SAY it is -01:00.
And finally, this user tells us where's he/she is heading, let's say this place has a time shift of +05:00.
How do we save this town's or place's time shifts in the DB so that according to where he/she's from
we could calculate the time difference with our current locale?
Also, date save light things, how do we work with them?
You don't.
As long as you're using java.util.Date objects (or java.sql.Date, or java.sql.Timestamp) the database will contain UTC time, that's what java.util.Date holds internally.
You need to format and/or parse these dates according to local timezone. Take a look at SimpleDateFormat for more information. Of course, if you have dates in the database that you manually parsed, then you may be SOL.
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My project uses Javascript and Java (Android) for the client and Java for the backend.
When I started working on my project, I stored dates as days from epoch (long) and all was good. I then found out that my project doesn't work well with timezones. Suddenly dates were +1 -1 days off. Depending on the client's location in the world.
After a short investigation, I saw that the foolproof way to avoid it was to store the dates as String yyyy-MM-ddT00:00 so when using the Javascript's new Date(dateStr), it creates it correctly and all was good. Ofcourse I could store the dates as yyyy-MM-dd and just send it to the client as yyyy-MM-ddT00:00 but that won't solve the question I have.
After that, I was wondering whether Java (backend) is handled correctly. I use LocalDate when I want to "play" with dates and LocalDate.parse doesn't like yyyy-MM-ddT00:00 format, instead it works with yyyy-MM-dd so whenever I needed dates, I did LocalDate.parse(dateStr.substring(0,10)). LocalDateTime does work with yyyy-MM-ddT00:00 but I don't need the time part and it had its own issues, which I don't remember what they were at the moment.
So now I have a lot of String manipulation (inside loops) that actually creates more String objects. One can say it's not that much of a stress and I shouldn't pay attention to that but I want to make sure I'm not missing something and maybe there's another way (maybe silly enough that I've missed) to overcome this.
Thanks
Update: The events are stored from a different source and only the date itself is important so if an event happened on 2020-06-17, this is the date all users should see, no matter where they are.
I'm using new Date(dateStr) in Javascript. If dateStr is 2020-06-17, the date object uses the client's timezone and the date might be +-1 depending on the client's timezone. If dateStr is 2020-06-17T00:00 then the date object is created as expected no matter where the client is located.
Assuming the above, which I hope is clearer now, creating String objects over and over again is a memory stress that I should consider or is it something Java handles with no problem and I shouldn't worry about this?
My question was closed and I was told to edit it to be more focused. After editing my question, how can I re-open my question to answers?
As you have discovered, storing dates in terms of days since some epoch only works if everyone who uses your system is using the same time zone. If two different users in different time zones have a different idea about the date on which some event occurred (e.g., the person in New York says that the system crashed on Sunday night, but the the person in Hong Kong says it crashed on Monday morning), then you have to store the time zone in which the event occurred in order to show the date of that event accurately.
But if that's the situation you're in, why not just store the time zone along with the date? There's no compelling reason to combine the date and timezone into a string.
When you parse a ISO-formatted timestamp into a LocalDate using only the first 10 characters, be aware that you're losing the time zone information. Implicitly the LocalDate that you get is in the time zone of the original timestamp. So if the original timestamp is New York time, and you take the date part and add 1 day, then you'll get the next day in the New York time zone. But if you then take the date from a second timestamp, you can't compare it to the date you got from the first timestamp, in terms of determining if it represents the "same day." You can only test for "same day" if both dates are implicitly in the same time zone.
UPDATE
After reading your additional comments, I realize that what's happening is this. You have a date stored in your database, like 2020-06-15. You send that to the UI as the string '2020-06-15' and then do new Date('2020-06-15') and then you're surprised when you render the date in the UI and get June 14!
This is the transformation that happens:
The string '2016-06-15' gets parsed into a JavaScript Date representing midnight UTC on the June 15.
When you render the date, it gets converted into a string using the browser's local time zone, which (if you're in the United States) will give you June 14, because at midnight UTC on June 15 it's still June 14 in all time zones west of Greenwich.
You discovered that if you make the string "2020-06-15T00:00" that it works, because now JavaScript uses the browser's local time zone to parse the string. In other words, this string means midnight local time, not UTC, on June 15. So now the sequence is:
'2020-06-15T00:00' gets parsed using the local time zone and becomes June 15 4:00AM UTC.
When you render the date, it gets converted back to local time and is rendered as June 15.
The easiest way to avoid all this messiness is just to send the regular date string '2020-06-15' to the UI and render it using DateTimeFormat, specifying the time zone as UTC:
new Intl.DateTimeFormat('en-US', {timeZone: 'UTC'}).format(d)
Since dates in JavaScript are always UTC, and you're asking DateTimeFormat to output the date in UTC, no date shift occurs.
You could also use the Date methods getUTCFullYear, getUTCMonth, etc. to get the date components and format them however you like.
Once you're no longer sending dates back and forth with "T00:00" appended, you can just use LocalDate on the Java side.
Don't spend even a second worrying about the time required to manipulate strings. Think about the incredible amount of string manipulation that is necessary to build even a simple web page. A few more strings here and there isn't going to make a difference.
I have been reading different articles on the said question yet i am unable to figure out what should be the best strategy to store the date in db.
I will be receiving the ISO8601 date via path-param in a rest call. What I have decided
Use Joda-Time to parse the date.
Extract UTC-0 time out of the date and the hours offset
Store UTC-0 in DateTime datatype in mysql db and store offset in varchar(5).
When I have to search something based on the date (an exposed rest api). I will use the search criteria (input date) extract the UTC-0 time and hours offset and compare the two columns in the db i.e. where table.dateInUTC0 = :inputDateInUTC0 AND table.hoursOffset = :inputHoursOffset
I am not sure about step 4. Am i doing i right ?
I am not sure about step 4. Am i doing i right ?
Really, it depends on what you are trying to do.
If you want the search to only match if the searcher is using the same timezone as the original data, then you are doing it right.
If you don't want that, you are doing it wrong.
Ask yourself this: If you enter the same date / time in your local time zone and UTC (or some other time zone), do they mean the same thing for clients of your server? Should they?
im extracting dates from my HSQL database and they display correctly but internally they seem to be wrong. Most of the Dates are defaults with 1970-01-01 as its value. While debugging i can see a field called "fastTime" which says it is -3.600.000 which is exactly one minute before it should be...
When i now mix these dates up with some generated values where fastTime is 0 the comparison is wrong and the wrong date is picked.
This is extremly annoying because just adding the value when extractng it from DB works for now but switching to another DBMS would require to revert this changes.
So.. Is this just a bug or whats going on?
If the dates display correctly, then they are correct for your time zone.
If the fastTime indicates the value you are reporting, it means your time zone is GMT+1hour. If the fastTime was 0, then the date would represent midnight at GMT, rather than in your time zone.
Your need to account for time zone when you peform comparisons in Java between dates that belong to different zones. You can use a Java Calendar object for this purpose.
Given a any unix timestamp (i.e. 1306396801) which translates to 26.05.2011 08:00:01, how can I determine if this is within a given timeframe (i.e. 08:00:00 and 16:00:00)?
This needs to work for any day. I just want to know if this timestamp is within the given time-interval, on any future (or past) day, the date is unimportant. I don't care if it is on the 25th or 26th, as long as it is between 08:00 and 16:00.
I am on the lookout for a java solution, but any pseudo code that works will be ok, I'll just convert it.
My attempts so far has been converting it to a java Calendar, and reading out the hour/min/sec values and comparing those, but that just opened up a big can of worms. If the time interval I want it between is 16.30, I can't just check for tsHour > frameStartHour && tsMin > frameStartMin as this will discard any timestamps that got a minute part > 30.
Thank you for looking at this :)
To clarify.
I am only using and referring to UTC time, my timestamp is in UTC, and the range I want it within is in UTC.
I think I understand what you want. You want to test for any day, if it's between 8am and 4pm UTC. Take the timestamp mod 24*3600. This will give you the number of seconds elapsed in the day. Then you just compare that it's between 8*3600 and 16*3600. If you need to deal with timezones, things get more complicated.
Given your timestamp (in seconds) and the desired time zone, Jodatime gives you the hour which leads you to a simple integer range check.
new org.joda.time.DateTime(timestamp*1000L, zone).getHourOfDay()
With java.util.* its more difficult.
If I understood you correctly, you only need to normalize your dates to some common value. Create three instances of Calendar - one with your time, but day, month, and year set to zero, and two with start and end of your timeframe, other fields also zeroed. Then you can use Calendar.after() and Calendar.before() to see if the date is within the range.
Your unix timestamp is an absolute time. Your time frame is relative. You need some kind of time zone information in order to solve this problem. I just answered some of this for PostgreSQL a few minutes ago. Hopefully that article is of use.
Convert the beginning of your range to a unix timestamp, and the end of your range to a unix tmestamp, then it's a simple integer check.
I'm setting the standards for our application.
I've been wondering, what default date format should I choose to use ?
It should be:
Internationalization & timezone aware, the format should be able to represent user local time
Can be efficiently parsed by SimpleDataFormat (or alike, jdk classes only)
Programming Language agnostic (can parse in java, python, god forbid C++ :) and co.)
Preferably ISO based or other accepted standard
Easy to communicate over HTTP (Should such need arises, JSON or YAML or something in this nature)
Can represent time down to seconds resolution (the more precise the better, micro seconds if possible).
Human readable is a plus but not required
Compact is a plus but not required
Thank you,
Maxim.
yyyy-MM-ddThh:mmZ (See ISO 8601) You can add seconds, etc
You can read it easily, it will not be a problem for SimpleDateFormat.
The most canonical and standard form is probably "Unix Time": The number of seconds elapsed since midnight Coordinated Universal Time (UTC) of January 1, 1970.
If you set that as the default time-format you can easily parse it, store it in memory, write it to disk, easily communicate it over HTTP and so on. It is also definitely an accepted standard, and in a sense it is "time-zone aware", since it is well-defined regardless of time-zones.
(This is the format in which I always store all my time stamps; in databases, in memory, on disk, ...)
The "right" default format really depends on what you're doing with it. The formats for parsing, storing, and displaying can all be different.
For storing the date you're (almost) always going to want to use UTC as aioobe says, even when you want to display it in user local time. I say "(almost)" but I really can't think of a case where I would not want UTC for a saved date. You may want to store the TZ information for where the date originated also, so you can report it in that local time, but more often you want to display the local time for the whoever is currently looking at the date. That means having a way to determine the current user's local time regardless of what the original local time was.
For displaying it, the "default format" should usually be determined by the viewers locale. 08/09/10 usually means 2010-Aug-9 in the U.S. ("Middle endian") but normally means 2010-Sep-8 in most of the rest of the world ("Little endian"). The ISO-8601 format "2010-09-10" is safe and unambiguous but often not what people expect to see. You can also look over RFC-3339 for Date and Time on the internet and RFC-2822 for message format (transmitting the date)
For parsing a date, you'll want to parse it and convert it to UTC, but you should be fairly flexible on what you accept. Again, the end users Locale and timezone, if discoverable, can help you determine what format(s) of string to accept as input. This is assuming user-typed strings. If you're generating a date/time stamp you can control the form and parsing will be no problem.
I also second BalusC link which I hadn't seen before and have now favorited.