Hi
I want to design and develop a big enterprise application using just
GWT in client side.
I want to break this enterprise application into parts and I call each
of them a module (or bundle or portlet or whatever!).
These modules might have relation with each other and might call some services that
exists in other modules (in both client and server side).
The problem is, These modules must be Designed , Developed, Compiled
and Deployed Independently and Dynamically and they will be placed and
shown together in one context on the client and the dependencies
between modules should be manageable (in both client and server side).
What can I do? What kind of technologies I can use to build an enterprise application like this?
When you develop an application that is not divided into parts (In the way that i mentioned) you can easily deploy your application after building your project, but when you change just one form in your application you have to build the entire application again, and deploy the entire application.
In this application I cannot stop the server to deploy the application again, I want to change and deploy that part of application that is needed to be changed not the entire application!!!
Of course I have searched about the way that I can solve my problem!!!
I have found that I can use OSGI on server side because it provides modularity at software construction level and helps me to manage life cycle of modules and many other benefits that you know!
And I have found that I can use Gadgets on client side.
What do you think? Are they good choices?
If they are good choices, how can I start? I know that we have different kinds of implementations of OSGi, like Apache Felix, Eclipse Equinox and Knopflerfish. Which one is good for this choice?
How GWT and OSGi can be integrated? How can they interact with each other?
Unfortunately what you want to do is not fully possible with GWT.
OSGi is a modularity solution for Java, or more accurately the JVM. A GWT client application does not run on the JVM, it runs on the browser in a JavaScript environment. Therefore OSGi cannot be used to create runtime-assembled modular GWT applications.
A GWT application can be modular at the source level, but the modules must be assembled into an application at build time. The resulting runtime is monolithic.
However, it's perfectly possible to use OSGi to host the GWT servlets, and you can use the full power of OSGi runtime modularity on the server side.
As an alternative you may want to look at Vaadin. This is a web framework that uses GWT to provide widgets, but the logic of the application runs on the server. As a result, it does support full runtime modularity through OSGi bundles. There is a cost with this approach though: your web application is quite chatty, with lots more communication going between the browser and the server than in GWT or in a traditional web application. It's possible that this approach will not scale to very large numbers of users.
As for whether to use Equinox, Felix or Knopflerfish... it really doesn't matter. Stick to the specification, and you can easily switch between implementations.
I did just this two years ago: OSGi and GWT for no downtime deployments of project modules.
Verdict: Don't do it unless you really must.
In short, OSGi is a beast and retrofitting an existing application for it is far from trivial. You're no longer making .war files (.ear now) and can't use the standard jars and Maven repositories you used before. Now everything needs to be a bundle. Trouble is, a lot of stuff (GWT, Spring, tons of libs) are not bundles! And you'll need to find them in an enterprise bundle repository or, even more fun, start rebundling 3rd party sources them yourself. Better yet, telling the other devs to rewrite everything that uses their favorite lib because bundling it would be too complex.
The GWT part didn't take that much work. The way contexts for modules were handled in gwt-servlet had to be modified so each module could find it's context on the server. We also had to make a way for most of the GWT services to register/unregister on load and a discovery service so they could know who else was out there.
Now the other pain: project explosion.
Let's say you had 20 modules you wanted to deploy independently. Well, to start with they're probably more coupled than you'd like, so better spent a few weeks breaking them into independent Maven projects and pushing common parts to a lib project. But now, you've got tons of dependencies to keep track of. When someone tweaks your lib project, do you need up upgrade every project or just 7 of them? In the classic stop the world deployment, you only had one version of all your code. Now, you need to decide if that forgot password form being upgrades will require you to also upgrade your index page module. You'll have a ton of version numbers to make up and keep track of. In our case, we quickly had 55 Maven projects building all the time in our CI server. This meant some checkins could trigger 55 builds. Eek.
Finally, JSON interfaces.
We used GWT RPC. It's magical. Write an interface and everything just works. It's also serialized and gzipped over the wire too. Awesome. But, the serialization policies depend on object and string lookup tables that are built at compile time per module. So, project A cannot RPC to project B. Boo. We chose to use JSON due to the graceful degradation, that is not failing when new unrecognized properties were present on objects. This means you'll again need a way to keep all the backend service calls coherent in the versions of the JSON they are expecting and can handle. Better simulate that live upgrade beforehand too.
So, final word: possible, but why? Do you really need OSGi to hot deploy modules because you're running a 1000% uptime business critical application? Or does your boss/architect just refuse to accept that 99.999% is good enough? You probably don't need that uptime and can achieve nearly 100% uptime with a good proxy to let you take instances in/out of the balancer pool. Also, don't forget that even if you can upgrade your projects live on the fly, I hope you've got a way to upgrade your database on the fly without dropping a single transaction.
I think you are setting yourself for more headaches than it is worth.
I would go with deploying the whole thing at a pop. If not you will end up with mismatched pieces of the application that are out of sync with each other. GWT has both Client and Server components and they need to be deployed together. If you have a zero downtime policy then you probably have load balancing in place.
I would use the load balancing software to deploy the new version of the app. Turn off one side (by diverting all traffic to the other side) deploy to it, do a quick smoke test, switch all traffic to the new side and repeat with the old side.
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After looking for a long time without finding a good answer, I come to the place where good answers are found.
I'm creating en ecosystem of independent applications (modeled as a WebApp in a WAR) and service modules (plugins) that those WebApps can consume (modeled as an OSGI bundle). I'm having trouble getting my head around how to architect those elements with Apache Felix and Jetty. The way I understand it I have three possible ways of doing it, but I have no idea of the implication of each.
Create a felix container that brings up the plugins, and also brings jetty who eventually bring up the WebApps.
Create a jetty server with embedded felix to provide the plugins, and use Jetty's deployer to manage the WebApps.
Create a jetty server with a less complicated framework than OSGI to manage the plugins, and use Jetty's deployer to manage the WebApps.
Option 1 seems to be a very orthogonal solution, everything is an osgi module (assuming the wars are a module), and managing the whole thing would be just a matter of creating the felix infrastructure and bringing everything up. From my early testing, managing all these osgi modules in development is not an easy or fast task (but most likely I'm doing something wrong).
Option 2 seems that it would work (is the one that I have managed to get further from the two) and is simpler to manage my head around, since the OSGI is limited to managing only the plugin infrastructure and not the applications or the server.
Option 3 I haven't even started to explore.
I'm expecting to have several independent applications (WebApps) and many many plugins (OSGI modules) and I would like to hear from you on the pros and cons of each option, in terms of maintainability and ease of development.
One of the problems here is that 1 and 2 are both valid use cases of osgi frameworks.
I would recommend having a detailed look at JBoss Fuse, as this is a very mature implementation of option 1 (ignoring the container based, openshift stuff and focus on the on prem version). The basics of it are:
a single JVM that hosts an OSGI container based on Apache Felix. (It's really Apache Camel, repackaged from Apache Servicemix, which uses Apache Karaf, which can either use felix or the Eclipse OSGi framework. Turtles all the way down).
Applications are packaged as osgi bundles that can include a servlet engine.
The servlet engine can then also utilise osgi to run a plugin / framework system.
You will probably not be surprised at the huge amount of house of cards tooling it requires to get this stuff up and running, and then maintaining it. You wont suffer from classpath dependency clashes, but the cost is an extremely complicated toolchain for creating and deploying bundles. This also makes unit and component testing very difficult. Some of this is just due to how complex fuse is, but trying to seperate the unnecessary complexity from the necessary is a hard problem.
A hello world on Fuse, where you are digging into each part of the platform and really getting to know what's happening, would probably take a week.
Leaving fuse aside, there are plenty of issues with either option 1 or 2
you are still limited by the JVM and its threads. You need to take some care to ensure everything works together as it is very easy for a single bundle or plugin to happily consume the entire CPU and block other applications from doing work.
plugins have a lifecycle that needs to be managed - start, stop, load, reload, unload. There are a number of management issues that will bite right away - How do you force stop a plugin? When do you give up and restart the JVM?
who is writing the plugins, where are they hosted or built, how do you trust them and so on.
OSGi is pretty successful client side, but IMHO the reason there's not many really well known server side OSGi implementations is because it's really difficult to manage with lots of threads and unpredictable request flow and people just don't get the results they want - run code from different sources in varying configurations, as decided by a user - from the pain of making it work.
So are there any other mature plugin frameworks that solve these issues in a simple reliable way? Not that I'm aware of! There's plenty around on github and google, but they always end up foundering on the same rocks of coming up with a reliable way of managing the plugins and making them play nice with the other things running in the JVM.
I would much prefer to keep the independent applications independent via their own docker container and then maybe look at felix if you really need to be able to load plugins at runtime.
I've started looking at osgi with the main purpose to achieve the task ahead of me. Basically i would be able to distribute an web based application and build specific features of the whole web app separately in such a way that i can deploy at A my web app with features a,b,c and deploy at B with features a,c,d.
A little like how one can install plugin in joomla. So for example when i want to add a different aspect of the web application, i would build a small war with all the html and its admin section and have this feature admin section available in the main admin panel.
Second question is about Spring DM. most likely i will be using Spring and it seem logical i see what Spring DM has to offer.After downloading Spring DM .1.2.1 i found out that its lib folder contains spring jars for version 2.5.6.SEC01 but i planned on using 3.1.2 so am a little confuse as how everything will play nice together.
Thanks for reading
I've just been doing such an exercise so I can shed some light how you do it without the overhead of Spring. I've made a clear division: all application code is in the browser, all data handling is in the server. With HTML5 the browser has grown up to an impressive, portable, and powerful application environment. One has multiprocessing, messaging, modularity, and amazing visuals. I am using angularjs as the framework in the browser.
Angular works with a central routing table mapping the hash part of the page url to "modules" in Javascript. This makes it very easy to define what modules are part of the application. The server can easily control this part.
On the server side I have bundles that carry the Javascript code, the html fragments and the data handling. I based this on the OSGi Http Server model since it is more flexible. However, I added proper support for static resources in bundles: caching, streaming, ranges, etc.
In the server I used DS and bndtools to develop the bundles. This is an impressive development experience since it works like Smalltalk. You change and it is immediately reflected in the server. Adding bundles, removing bundles, the server keeps on running. Server restarts are rare during development.
The disadvantage is that there are unfortunately very few components that leverage OSGi. Most components, with Spring being the archetypical example, rely heavily on class loading hacks to wire applications from a central point. This is fundamentally not modular. For this reason I had to develop many highly cohesive and uncoupled components that leverage the OSGi service model. Once I get time I will donate them to an open source project.
I'm not sure you need to be considering OSGi, at least not directly, to achieve your state requirements. You said:
Basically i would be able to distribute an web based application and
build specific features of the whole web app separately in such a way
that i can deploy at A my web app with features a,b,c and deploy at B
with features a,c,d.
If these are youre requirements, then you don't actually need to concern yourself with OSGi directly, but rather find a web app framework that supports modular extensions. Which most likely means that the framework itself uses OSGi. I'm not familiar with Spring, but I do know that Struts 2 ( a comparable web app framework ) has an OSGi based plugin meant to achieve your use case.
On the other hand, if your idea is to play with OSGi, then I suggest you pick a lower level task, such as writing a web application framework, rather than a web app itself.
What are the implications of building a java program against the jars of one web container (say Jetty) and running it in another (say Tomcat)?
I have an application which I run in Jetty durring development but which is deployed into a tomcat server for production (Why? because it seems easier to develop without having to run a whole tomcat server.)
You should compile against only the official Java EE API's for the level you target, for any non-developer builds. Preferably by a build engine. Preferably on a different operating system than you develop on.
For a web application this mean the appropriate servlet API as downloaded from Oracle. Similar for an enterprise application.
In my experience this is the best way to keep it straight.
Edit: Java EE SDK is available from http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javaee/downloads/index.html. If you need an older version than Java EE 6, then follow the "Previous Releases" link.
You can get issues such as MethodNotFoundError. You can usually resolve these by making sure versions of jars installed on the servers match.
you typically want to develop where you deploy. It might be slightly harder to develop with tomcat vs jetty, but you have identified a potential mess of a problem with jar conflicts, so doesn't it seem worth it to develop with tomcat, since you deploy to tomcat?
Also, typically the pain of developing against tomcat/your container of choice is mitigated by putting in the time to write a ant (or other) task that will deploy your code to your development container. The work cycle bemoes
1) Write new code
2) make sure tests pass
3) run your 'redeploy' script
4) poke around in the running instance
You probably want to do that.
Finally, in the spirit of loose coupling, you probably do not want to depend on a container-specific libraries if you can avoid it; only do that as an absolute last resort.
I'm new whith OSGi, but it is interesting.
Is it possible to interact between osgi bundles and java application? If it is possible, how?
thanks!
The context is that I have a big Java SE application(author is another programmer) with many dependencies. First my goal is to add new functionality and second - change architecture. I'll try to use OSGi, but I don't want to write code twice, for that reason I want to write new code now as bundles. But use this new functionality from the old application.
Yes! Yes! and Yes! This is a perfect way to start taking advantage of OSGi and evolving towards a service based application.
It is trivial to create a framework with the 4.2 launcher API without even knowing which framework implementation you use. You get a Framework object then that is actually an OSGi Bundle and can provide you with a BundleContext. This you can use to install bundles. This all is described in the spec but you can find a lot concrete and excellent examples in Felix: http://felix.apache.org/site/apache-felix-framework-launching-and-embedding.html. Felix has been explicitly promoting embedded in apps since day one.
The hard part of this approach will be getting used to modularity and its restrictions. To be useful, you will have to share classes between OSGi bundles and your application; this requires explicit exporting of these shared packages from your application using the org.osgi.framework.systempackages.extra property. This property is the Export-Package header for your application.
Importing packages from bundles in the framework is not possible due to the class loading model in Java. This means your application code can only use services from the framework where the packages for those services are on the apps classpath.
The result of this is that new functionality tend to drift to bundles where there is full visibility: both the exported app packages as well as any bundles. However, this is probably exactly what you want.
So be aware of this potential pitfall. Embed, and then over time migrate all your code to bundles so that your application becomes only an OSGi launcher. However, be very aware of your the packages shared between the two environments.
Good luck and let us know how this goes.
I see OSGi as a structuring technology. You can use it to define the component structure of your application. So all of your app is effectively a collection of OSGi bundles. Hence interaction is not a problem, just different bits of your app interating in the normal way.
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You have a fundamental decision: is your OSGi code going to execute in the same process as the original or in a seperate process?
Separation implies freedom to structure the new code as you wish, exploiting OSGi, but at the cost of interprocess communication complexity and performance overheads. It's pretty likely that you will end up making substantial changes to the existing app in order to support remoting in some form. I don't see this as a great approach unless your OSGi code happens to be some kind of re-usable service that perhaps other remote clients would use.
If in the same process then I'd say that you need to bite the bullet and say that this is going to be a OSGi application. The amount of effort to take an existing app and make it run in OSGi need not be excessive.
Suppose you treated the existing application as one huge OSGi bundle? There would be some work on initialisation, but would the rest "just work"? If you do this as the first step then the real re-architecting and modularisation of the existing app is deferred. You then just expose the interfaces your new modules need, and where necessary consume services provided by the new modules. Immediately you are getting OSGi benefits by structuring the dependencies.
An application build with OSGi can interact in the same way as just two normal (Java) applications. So, by loading / saving files. Or when one of them is created as an OSGi http server, then just communicate through http with that (OSGi) server. Just think of it as you used to do, without OSGi included.
What Java web development environment is the best for absolutely minimizing the build-deploy-test cycle time?
Web development environment: JBOSS, Tomcat, Jetty? Deploy WAR exploded? Copy WAR or use symbolic links? There are factors here I don't know about.
Build-deploy-test cycle? The amount of time it takes to test a change in the browser after making a change to the source code or other resources (including Java source, HTML, JSP, JS, images, etc.).
I am looking to speed up my development by reducing the amount of time I spend watching Ant builds and J2EE containers start. I want the Ruby on Rails experience --- or as close as I can get.
I'd prefer a solution that is web framework agnostic, however if a particular framework is particularly advantageous, then I'd like to hear about it.
Assume all the standard tools are in use: Hibernate, Spring, JMS, etc. If stubbing/mocking support infrastructure is required to make this work, I'm OK with that. In fact, I'm OK with having a development environment that is very different from our production environment if it saves me enough time.
You should probably take a look at Javarebel:
http://www.zeroturnaround.com/javarebel/
and this thread here:
How to improve productivity when developing Java EE based web applications
JBOSS uses Tomcat for its servlet/JSP engine, so that's a wash.
Tomcat does support hot deploy.
Jetty's pretty small and starts quickly, but it doesn't support hot deploy.
Eclipse is merely an IDE. It needs a servlet/JSP engine of some kind. If it's like IntelliJ, you can use any Java EE app server or servlet/JSP engine you'd like.
IntelliJ is pretty darned fast, and you don't have to stop and start the server every time you rebuild. It works off the exploded WAR, so things happen fast.
Building (used to be compiling) is a a sign of our times. We need quick validation of our thoughts and our actions. Whenever I find myself building to many times it is usually a sign that I'm not focused. That I don't have a plan. For me this is the time to stop and think. Do a list of things that need to be done (this is web framework agnostic) do them all and test them all after one build.
Jboss Seam together with the Jboss Developer Studio is good for hot deploying everything aside from EJBs (SLSB, SFSB and Entities need redeploy).
Have you considered Grails?
Deployment is as fast as it can get with Google App-Engine + GWT (optional) + Eclipse Plugin.
Never seen anything faster.
Maven 2 and eclipse. mvn eclipse:eclipse <- pure awesomeness. Also, WTP within eclipse works great (and maven generates working WTP projects).
Small web containers will load faster than overloaded webcontainers with the kitchen sink built in (.. cough .. jboss ).
Some design decisions slow build times (e.g. aspect-weaving based toolkits add an aspect-weaving phase to compile times).
Avoid building components that can only be tested after long elaborate load cycles. Caches are a prime culprit here. If your system has deep dependencies on a global cache scattered everywhere you'll need to load the cache every time you need to test something.
Unit-testable components, so you can run pieces instead of the whole thing.
I find that projects built reasonably compile, deploy, and startup in a few to 10 seconds, which is usually fine.
GWT in eclipse is probably the fastest I can think of. Using the hosted mode browser for your tests you can debug and change your code without restarting anything. Just need to click the refresh button in the browser and the changes are there (java, css, etc). One other thing is that GWT is adding this same support to normal browsers (Firefox, IE, Safari) so you can debug from within them the same way. These changes are coming in 2.0. See http://code.google.com/events/io/sessions/GwtPreviewGoogleWebToolkit2.html
Have you tried using Eclipse Java EE and then tell it to deploy to a server managed by Eclipse? Tomcat and JBOss works pretty well in this way. Also allow you to change code in a method, use Ctrl-S and have the class updated inside the server.
MyEclipse also works pretty well like this.
JRuby on Rails. Develop on whatever platform you want, deploy to standard Java servers.
I think the best way to avoid the long build deploy tests cycles is writing unit tests for your code. This way you can find bugs without waiting for the build/deploy phases.
For JSP you can edit the JSP files directly in the JBOSS work folder:
> cd $JBOSS_HOME/server/default/tmp
> find -name myJspFile.jsp
./tmp/vfs/automountd798af2a1b44fc64/Jee6Demo.war-bafecc49fc594b00/myJspFile.jsp
If you edit the file in the tmp folder you can test your changes just hitting the browser refresh button.