Here i try to learn java thread clearlly.. On which process JVM create the thread.
Suppose if i create a thread in java then how JVM create this thread? To whom it will send to exicute?.. Which one is the base process for this...
Most JVMs use standard OS calls to create native threads (eg, the Win32 CreateThread API, or POSIX pthread_create), and pass a native function within the JVM which proceeds to execute the Java code in the thread.
There is a separate JVM process for every running Java application. The threads that the application creates are created within that process.
Actually the Java Virtual Machine Specification does not specify how threads are to be handled by a JVM. There is only a high level description. The Sun JVM itself made a change in this regard: Up to Java 1.1 it used so called Green Threads that are managed by the JVM itself. Later it used native threads that the host operating system provides.
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I have read JVM as a Process and as a deamon thread and
As per Java, Each process has its own JVM and Garbage collector
Could some one please explain me with more details on this.
"Whether JVM runs on User Application Process or in Separate process." ??
Everywhere, I read it as an instance for Application Process.
And I also read it as GC has multiple threads.
Whether GC is a separate process or it creates threads on User process.?
JVM is running inside a process that was started by executing java.exe/javaw.exe on Windows or the java executable for Unix/GNU. Its owner would be the one that runs the executable. If two java programs are running then two JVMs in different processes will be created.
GC is a thread inside the JVM, see here
For example, the Java garbage collector is a daemon thread.
A JVM can be started from within an existing process via JNI_CreateJavaVM. A JVM generally consists of multiple threads, whether it runs within an owning process or as a separate process. The term "application" is on a different abstraction level than processes and threads.
How do I distinguish running Java threads and native threads?
In Linux there will be Parent process for every child process, and they say 0 is the parent of all the process, will there be a Parent thread of all the forked Java threads?
How do I know which Java thread is related to OS thread (if a Java thread forkes a native process thread).
Is there any naming convention of Java threads and OS threads?
Can a running Java threads can be suspended or killed from another Java code?
On Linux, Java threads are implemented with native threads, so a Java program using threads is no different from a native program using threads. A "Java thread" is just a thread belonging to a JVM process.
On a modern Linux system (one using NPTL), all threads belonging to a process have the same process ID and parent process ID, but different thread IDs. You can see these IDs by running ps -eLf. The PID column is the process ID, the PPID column is the parent process ID, and the LWP column is the thread (LightWeight Process) ID. The "main" thread has a thread ID that's the same as the process ID, and additional threads will have different thread ID values.
Older Linux systems may use the "linuxthreads" threading implementation, which is not fully POSIX-compliant, instead of NPTL. On a linuxthreads system, threads have different process IDs.
You can check whether your system is using NPTL or linuxthreads by running the system's C library (libc) as a standalone program and looking under "Available extensions" in its output. It should mention either "Native POSIX Threads Library" or linuxthreads. The path to the C library varies from system to system: it may be /lib/libc.so.6, /lib64/libc.so.6 (on 64-bit RedHat-based systems), or something like /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (on modern Debian-based systems such as Ubuntu).
At the OS level, theads don't have names; those exist only within the JVM.
The pthread_kill() C function can be used to send a signal to a specific thread, which you could use to try to kill that specific thread from outside the JVM, but I don't know how the JVM would respond to it. It might just kill the whole JVM.
There is no standard; this completely depends on the Java implementation which you're using. Also, don't mix up "native threads" and "native processes". A process is an isolated entity which can't see into the address space of other processes. A thread is something which runs in the address space of a native process and which can see into the memory of other threads of the same process.
What you see on Linux is something else: Some versions of Linux create an entry in the process table for each thread of a parent process. These "processes" aren't real processes (in the isolation sense). They are threads which can be listed with the ps command. You can find the process which created them by using the parent PID (PPID).
There is no generic solution how Java threads are mapped to OS threads, if at all. Every JVM implementation can do it in a different way.
There is also a pure Java thread implementation, called green threads. This is used as a fallback if native threads aren't supported or the system isn't multithreaded at all. You won't see any green threads at your OS.
Can a running Java threads can be suspended or killed from another Java code ?
If they are running at the same JVM, yes, with stop(). But that's not a good solution and may work, or not. interrupt() allows the thread so safely shut itself down.
There is no way to kill threads outside of the JVM I know of. If a OS really supports killing of threads, I wouldn't expect the Java application to run correctly afterwards!
Can a running Java threads can be
suspended or killed from another Java
code ?
In theory yes. In practice, the Thread.kill() and Thread.suspend() methods are deprecated because they are unsafe except in very limited situations. The basic problem is that killing or suspending a Java thread is likely to mess up other threads that depend on it, and shared data structures that it might have been in the middle of updating.
If "another Java code" is meant to mean another JVM, then the chances of it working are even less. Even if you figured out how to send the relevant thread signal, the results are completely unpredictable. My bet is that the "target" JVM would crash.
They could be many JVMs per Operative system or it is only one JVM per Operative System ? I also read that with "Runtime.exit()", we stop the execution of a JVM?
I'm a bit confuse because I've always thought that JVM is a machine that never stop working, always awaken waiting to be called for example by the "java App.class".
The JVM is an abstract concept, and there may be many running instances per Operating System. The implementation is usually through the Java Runtime Environment. And when exit is called, the runtime stops. The JVM can certainly stop. And (on most computers) it has to be explicitly started.
i'have always thougth that JVM is a machine that never stop working, always awaken waiting to be called for example by the "java App.class"
No, that is not how the JVM works. It's not a background process that is waiting to execute your Java programs. There is not always just one JVM running on one computer.
Whenever you start a Java program, a new JVM is started. When you have multiple Java programs running at the same time, you have multiple JVMs running. Each program is running in its own JVM.
System.exit() stops the JVM that is running the current Java application. It has no effect on other Java programs running on the same machine.
If you start a java app (directly or indirectly with the java shell command), then an instance of the JVM is created and started.
When the application finishes (either by reaching the end or through System.exit() then the JVM instance stops.
Of course, you can have multiple Java apps running simultaneously. Each will be in its own JVM instance.
They could be many JVMs per Operative system or it is only one JVM per Operative System ?
You can do either. You can run a JVM for each command, or you can use an application server to run your java applications. (You cna have more than one application server)
I also read that with "Runtime.exit()", we stop the execution of a JVM ?
This triggers the JVM to shutdown. The process does some work such as calling Shutdown Hooks after this is called.
i' m a bit confuse because i'have always thougth that JVM is a machine that never stop working,
It can be used that way. For example scala has a daemon compiler which is used to compile scala programs.
always awaken waiting to be called for example by the "java App.class".
When you run any program, (java or not) this always starts a new program. The only time this doesn't happen is for built in shell commands. e.g. set
By reading this article, I know that each java application will run in a specific Java Virtual Machine Instance. So if I execute the following commands("Java -jar test1.jar","Java -jar test2.jar", I will get two processes in the system. And If each command used the default heap size, for example, 256M. The total memory cost is 512M, is that right?
Also I have other questions:
Is the Java virtual Machine a daemon process, start up with the system?
When I execute "java -jar test1.jar", it will create an instance of Java Virtual Machine, then execute the main function. Does it mean every running java application is a sub thread or process of Java Virtual Machine?
Is each running java application individual, other application can not get variable, method, constant, etc, from this running java application?
If one running java application is crashed, will it affect other running java application?
PS: I googled and got lots of different answers, I was totally confused. Anyone who can help me on this kind of questions or even more depth of Java virtual Machine. For example, How it works.
The JVM is a standard process, just like any other. As such there's no implicit communication or state sharing between the two. Each will have their own heap, threads etc. If you kill one it won't affect the other.
What will get shared are the code pages of the JVM itself. The kernel is intelligent enough to identify the same binary (any binary -not just the JVM) running twice and reuse the image. This only applies to the actual binary code - not its state. See here for more info re. Linux.
The JVM isn't a daemon process, but could be started upon system startup as a Windows service or Unix/Linux process (via /etc/init.d scripts). This is how you'd (say) run a web service written in Java when a machine is booted up.
1) No, but there a ways to launch java applications as services with wrappers (Google for "Java service").
2) Yes.
3) You can use communication between processes (v.g. HTTP). But there are no shortcuts due to all processes being run in JVM.
4) No
For the OS, JVM like an user application. Each JVM Instance is individual.
No. JVM is normal process as others.But you can run it as deamon process.
Yes. Java application run on JVM just like you application on OS.
Yes. Each JVM thread is individual, but they can communication whith other JVMs through network,RMI...
It depends. Normally they are individual, but if a JVM crash cause the OS crash, other JVMs will be effected.
This link seems to suggest that "it just works": (pretty far on the bottom under 7.3 Attaching Native Threads) http://java.sun.com/docs/books/jni/html/invoke.html
I don't see how that is possible, is the embedded JVM going to start its own threads automatically? Or queue the JNI calls? How else could there be multiple calls to the same virtual machine. which I haven't instructed to do any threading?
Any way I can imagine that to work is, if the java code will simply be executed in the same calling thread as the c code. Is that correct? That would mean that I don't have to do any threading in Java.
The jvm does not have to create its own threads, the method calls are executed on the native threads that make them. The AttachCurrentThread and DetachCurrentThread will take care of any necessary jvm internal state management, for example creating java Thread objects wrapping the native threads.
The JVM starts its own threads which it needs to run. You trigger this thread creation by starting the JVM.