I'm trying to port an application I wrote in java to javascript (actually using coffeescript).
Now, I'm feeling lost.. what do you suggest to do to create class properties? Should I use getter/setters? I don't like to do this:
myObj.prop = "hello"
because I could use non existing properties, and it would be easy to mispell something..
How can I get javascript to be a bit more like java, with private, public final properties etc..? Any suggestion?
If you just translate your Java code into JavaScript, you're going to be constantly fighting JavaScript's object model, which is prototype-based, not class-based. There are no private properties on objects, no final properties unless you're using an ES5-compatible engine (you haven't mentioned what your target runtime environment is; browsers aren't use ES5-compatible, it'll be another couple of years), no classes at all in fact.
Instead, I recommend you thoroughly brief yourself on how object orientation actually works in JavaScript, and then build your application fully embracing how JavaScript does it. This is non-trivial, but rewarding.
Some articles that may be of use. I start with closures because really understanding closures is absolutely essential to writing JavaScript, and most "private member" solutions rely on closures. Then I refer to a couple of articles by Douglas Crockford. Crockford is required reading if you're going to work in JavaScript, even if you end up disagreeing with some of his conclusions. Then I point to a couple of articles specifically addressing doing class-like things.
Closures are not complicated - Me
Prototypical inheritance in JavaScript - Crockford
Private Members in JavaScript - Crockford
Simple, Efficient Supercalls in JavaScript - Me Includes syntactic sugar to make it easier to set up hierarchies of objects (it uses class-based terminology, but actually it's just prototypical inheritance), including calling "superclass" methods.
Private Members in JavaScript - Me Listing Crockford's solution and others
Mythical Methods - Me
You must remember this - Me
Addressing some of your specific questions:
what do you suggest to do to create class properties? Should I use getter/setters? I don't like to do this:
myObj.prop = "hello"
because I could use non existing properties, and it would be easy to mispell something..
I don't, I prefer using TDD to ensure that if I do have a typo, it gets revealed in testing. (A good code-completing editor will also be helpful here, though really good JavaScript code-completing editors are thin on the ground.) But you're right that getters and setters in the Java sense (methods like getFoo and setFoo) would make it more obvious when you're creating/accessing a property that you haven't defined in advance (e.g., through a typo) by causing a runtime error, calling a function that doesn't exist. (I say "in the Java sense" because JavaScript as of ES5 has a different kind of "getters" and "setters" that are transparent and wouldn't help with that.) So that's an argument for using them. If you do, you might look at using Google's Closure compiler for release builds, as it will inline them.
How can I get javascript to be a bit more like java, with private...
I've linked Crockford's article on private members, and my own which lists other ways. The very basic explanation of the Crockford model is: You use a variable in the context created by the call to your constructor function and a function created within that context (a closure) that has access to it, rather than an object property:
function Foo() {
var bar;
function Foo_setBar(b) {
bar = b;
}
function Foo_getBar() {
return bar;
}
this.setBar = Foo_setBar;
this.getBar = Foo_getBar;
}
bar is not an object property, but the functions defined in the context with it have an enduring reference to it. This is totally fine if you're going to have a smallish number of Foo objects. If you're going to have thousands of Foo objects you might want to reconsider, because each and every Foo object has its own two functions (really genuinely different Function instances) for Foo_getBar and Foo_setBar.
You'll frequently see the above written like this:
function Foo() {
var bar;
this.setBar = function(b) {
bar = b;
};
this.getBar = function() {
return bar;
};
}
Yes, it's briefer, but now the functions don't have names, and giving your functions names helps your tools help you.
How can I get javascript to be a bit more like java, with...public final properties
You can define a Java-style getter with no setter. Or if your target environment will be ES5-compliant (again, browsers aren't yet, it'll be another couple of years), you could use the new Object.defineProperty feature that allows you to set properties that cannot be written to.
But my main point is to embrace the language and environment in which you're working. Learn it well, and you'll find that different patterns apply than in Java. Both are great languages (I use them both a lot), but they work differently and lead to different solutions.
You can use module pattern to make private properties and public accessors as one more option.
This doesn't directly answer your question, but I would abandon the idea of trying to make the JavaScript app like Java. They really are different languages (despite some similarities in syntax and in their name). As a general statement, it makes sense to adopt the idioms of the target language when porting something.
Currently there are many choices for you , you can check dojo library. In dojo, you can code mostly like java programming
Class
Javascript doesn’t have a Class system like Java,dojo provide dojo.declare to define a functionality to simulate this. Check this page . There are field variable, constructor method, extend from other class.
JavaScript has a feature that constructor functions may return any object (not necesserily this). So, your constructor function could just return a proxy object, that allows access only to the public methods of your class. Using this method you can create real protected member, just like in Java (with inheritance, super() call, etc.)
I created a little library to streamline this method: http://idya.github.com/oolib/
Dojo is one option. I personally prefer Prototype. It also has a framework and API for creating classes and using inheritance in a more "java-ish" way. See the Class.create method in the API. I've used it on multiple webapps I've worked on.
I mainly agree with #Willie Wheeler that you shouldn't try too hard to make your app like Java - there are ways of using JavaScript to create things like private members etc - Douglas Crockford and others have written about this kind of thing.
I'm the author of the CoffeeScript book from PragProg. Right now, I use CoffeeScript as my primary language; I got fluent in JavaScript in the course of learning CoffeeScript. But before that, my best language was Java.
So I know what you're going through. Java has a very strong set of best practices that give you a clear idea of what good code is: clean encapsulation, fine-grained exceptions, thorough JavaDocs, and GOF design patterns all over the place. When you switch to JavaScript, that goes right out the window. There are few "best practices," and more of a vague sense of "this is elegant." Then when you start seeing bugs, it's incredibly frustrating—there are no compile-time errors, and far fewer, less precise runtime errors. It's like playing without a net. And while CoffeeScript adds some syntactic sugar that might look familiar to Java coders (notably classes), it's really no less of a leap.
Here's my advice: Learn to write good CoffeeScript/JavaScript code. Trying to make it look like Java is the path to madness (and believe me, many have tried; see: just about any JS code released by Google). Good JS code is more minimalistic. Don't use get/set methods; use exceptions sparingly; and don't use classes or design patterns for everything. JS is ultimately a more expressive language than Java is, and CoffeeScript even moreso. Once you get used to the feeling of danger that comes with it, you'll like it.
One note: JavaScripters are, by and large, terrible when it comes to testing. There are plenty of good JS testing frameworks out there, but robust testing is much rarer than in the Java world. So in that regard, there's something JavaScripters can learn from Java coders. Using TDD would also be a great way of easing your concerns about how easy it is to make errors that, otherwise, wouldn't get caught until some particular part of your application runs.
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After comming from Ruby world, I'm having little problems doing TDD in Java. The biggest issue is when I have application that is just communicating with external API.
Say I want to just fetch some data from Google Calendar, or 5 tweets from some Twitter user and display it.
In Ruby, I don't have any problems, because I can monkey-patch the API library in tests directly, but I have no such option in Java.
If I think about this in terms of MVC, my model objects are directly accessing the API through some library. The question is, is this bad design? Should I always wrap any API library in some interface, so I can mock/stub it in Java?
Because when I think about this, the only purpose of that interface would be to simulate (please don't kill me for saying this) the monkey-patch. Meaning that any time I use any external resource, I have to wrap each layer in interface that can be stubbed out.
# do I have to abstract everything just to do this in Java?
Twitter.stub!(:search)
Now you might say that I should always abstract away the interface, so I can change the underlying layer to anything else. But if I'm writing twitter app, I'm not going to change it to RSS reader.
Yes, I can add for example Facebook and then it would make sense to have interface. But when there is no other resource that can be substituted for the one I'm using, than I still have to wrap everything in interfaces to make it testable.
Am I missing something, or is this just a way to test in the Java world?
Using interfaces is just generally good practice in Java. Some languages have multiple inheritance, others have duck typing, Java has interfaces. It's a key feature of the language, it lets me use
different aspects of a class in different contexts and
different implementations of the same contract without changing client code.
So interfaces are a concept you should embrace in general, and then you would reap the benefits in situations like this where you could substitute your services by mock objects.
One of the most important books about Java best practices is Effective Java by Joshua Bloch. I would highly suggest you to read it. In this context the most important part is Item 52: Refer to objects by their interfaces. Quote:
More generally, you should favor the use of interfaces rather than
classes to refer to objects. If appropriate interface types exist, then parameters, return values, variables, and fields should all be declared using interface
types. The only time you really need to refer to an object’s class is when you’re
creating it with a constructor.
And if you take things even further (e.g. when using dependency injection), you aren't even calling the constructor.
One of the key problems of switching languages is that you have to switch the way of thinking too. You can't program language x effectively while thinking in language y. You can't program C effectively without using pointers, Ruby not without duck typing and Java not without Interfaces.
Wrapping the external API is the way I would do this.
So, as you already said, you would have an interface and two classes: the real one and the dummy implementation.
Yes, it may seem unreasonable from the perspective of some services indeed being specific, like Twitter. But, this way your build process doesn't depend on external resources. Depending on external libraries isn't all that bad, but having your tests depend on actual data present or not present out there on the web can mess up the build process.
The easiest way is to wrap the API service with your interface/class pair and use that throughout your code.
I understand that what you want are Mock objects.
As you described it, one of the ways one can generate "test versions" of objects is by implementing a common interface and using it.
However, what you are missing is to simply extend the class (provided that it is not declared final) and override the methods that you want to mock. (NB: the possibility of doing that is the reason why it is considered bad form for a library to declare its classes final - it can make testing considerably harder.)
There is a number of Java libraries that aim in facilitating the use of Mock objects - you can look at Mockito or EasyMock.
Mockito is more handy and like your ruby mocks.
You can "monkey-patch" an API in Java. The Java language itself does not provide specific means to do it, but the JVM and the standard libraries do. In Ruby, developers can use the Mocha library for that. In Java, you can use the JMockit library (which I created because of limitations in older mocking tools).
Here is an example JMockit test, equivalent to the test_should_calculate_value_of_unshipped_orders test available in Mocha documentation:
#Test
public void shouldCalculateValueOfUnshippedOrders()
{
final Order anOrder = new Order();
final List<Order> orders = asList(anOrder, new Order(), new Order());
new NonStrictExpectations(Order.class)
{{
Order.findAll(); result = orders;
anOrder.getTotalCost(); result = 10;
}};
assertEquals(30, Order.unshippedValue());
}
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Much of my programming background is in Java, and I'm still doing most of my programming in Java. However, I'm starting to learn Python for some side projects at work, and I'd like to learn it as independent of my Java background as possible - i.e. I don't want to just program Java in Python. What are some things I should look out for?
A quick example - when looking through the Python tutorial, I came across the fact that defaulted mutable parameters of a function (such as a list) are persisted (remembered from call to call). This was counter-intuitive to me as a Java programmer and hard to get my head around. (See here and here if you don't understand the example.)
Someone also provided me with this list, which I found helpful, but short. Anyone have any other examples of how a Java programmer might tend to misuse Python...? Or things a Java programmer would falsely assume or have trouble understanding?
Edit: Ok, a brief overview of the reasons addressed by the article I linked to to prevent duplicates in the answers (as suggested by Bill the Lizard). (Please let me know if I make a mistake in phrasing, I've only just started with Python so I may not understand all the concepts fully. And a disclaimer - these are going to be very brief, so if you don't understand what it's getting at check out the link.)
A static method in Java does not translate to a Python classmethod
A switch statement in Java translates to a hash table in Python
Don't use XML
Getters and setters are evil (hey, I'm just quoting :) )
Code duplication is often a necessary evil in Java (e.g. method overloading), but not in Python
(And if you find this question at all interesting, check out the link anyway. :) It's quite good.)
Don't put everything into classes. Python's built-in list and dictionaries will take you far.
Don't worry about keeping one class per module. Divide modules by purpose, not by class.
Use inheritance for behavior, not interfaces. Don't create an "Animal" class for "Dog" and "Cat" to inherit from, just so you can have a generic "make_sound" method.
Just do this:
class Dog(object):
def make_sound(self):
return "woof!"
class Cat(object):
def make_sound(self):
return "meow!"
class LolCat(object):
def make_sound(self):
return "i can has cheezburger?"
The referenced article has some good advice that can easily be misquoted and misunderstood. And some bad advice.
Leave Java behind. Start fresh. "do not trust your [Java-based] instincts". Saying things are "counter-intuitive" is a bad habit in any programming discipline. When learning a new language, start fresh, and drop your habits. Your intuition must be wrong.
Languages are different. Otherwise, they'd be the same language with different syntax, and there'd be simple translators. Because there are not simple translators, there's no simple mapping. That means that intuition is unhelpful and dangerous.
"A static method in Java does not translate to a Python classmethod." This kind of thing is really limited and unhelpful. Python has a staticmethod decorator. It also has a classmethod decorator, for which Java has no equivalent.
This point, BTW, also included the much more helpful advice on not needlessly wrapping everything in a class. "The idiomatic translation of a Java static method is usually a module-level function".
The Java switch statement in Java can be implemented several ways. First, and foremost, it's usually an if elif elif elif construct. The article is unhelpful in this respect. If you're absolutely sure this is too slow (and can prove it) you can use a Python dictionary as a slightly faster mapping from value to block of code. Blindly translating switch to dictionary (without thinking) is really bad advice.
Don't use XML. Doesn't make sense when taken out of context. In context it means don't rely on XML to add flexibility. Java relies on describing stuff in XML; WSDL files, for example, repeat information that's obvious from inspecting the code. Python relies on introspection instead of restating everything in XML.
But Python has excellent XML processing libraries. Several.
Getters and setters are not required in Python they way they're required in Java. First, you have better introspection in Python, so you don't need getters and setters to help make dynamic bean objects. (For that, you use collections.namedtuple).
However, you have the property decorator which will bundle getters (and setters) into an attribute-like construct. The point is that Python prefers naked attributes; when necessary, we can bundle getters and setters to appear as if there's a simple attribute.
Also, Python has descriptor classes if properties aren't sophisticated enough.
Code duplication is often a necessary evil in Java (e.g. method overloading), but not in Python. Correct. Python uses optional arguments instead of method overloading.
The bullet point went on to talk about closure; that isn't as helpful as the simple advice to use default argument values wisely.
One thing you might be used to in Java that you won't find in Python is strict privacy. This is not so much something to look out for as it is something not to look for (I am embarrassed by how long I searched for a Python equivalent to 'private' when I started out!). Instead, Python has much more transparency and easier introspection than Java. This falls under what is sometimes described as the "we're all consenting adults here" philosophy. There are a few conventions and language mechanisms to help prevent accidental use of "unpublic" methods and so forth, but the whole mindset of information hiding is virtually absent in Python.
The biggest one I can think of is not understanding or not fully utilizing duck typing. In Java you're required to specify very explicit and detailed type information upfront. In Python typing is both dynamic and largely implicit. The philosophy is that you should be thinking about your program at a higher level than nominal types. For example, in Python, you don't use inheritance to model substitutability. Substitutability comes by default as a result of duck typing. Inheritance is only a programmer convenience for reusing implementation.
Similarly, the Pythonic idiom is "beg forgiveness, don't ask permission". Explicit typing is considered evil. Don't check whether a parameter is a certain type upfront. Just try to do whatever you need to do with the parameter. If it doesn't conform to the proper interface, it will throw a very clear exception and you will be able to find the problem very quickly. If someone passes a parameter of a type that was nominally unexpected but has the same interface as what you expected, then you've gained flexibility for free.
The most important thing, from a Java POV, is that it's perfectly ok to not make classes for everything. There are many situations where a procedural approach is simpler and shorter.
The next most important thing is that you will have to get over the notion that the type of an object controls what it may do; rather, the code controls what objects must be able to support at runtime (this is by virtue of duck-typing).
Oh, and use native lists and dicts (not customized descendants) as far as possible.
The way exceptions are treated in Python is different from
how they are treated in Java. While in Java the advice
is to use exceptions only for exceptional conditions this is not
so with Python.
In Python things like Iterator makes use of exception mechanism to signal that there are no more items.But such a design is not considered as good practice in Java.
As Alex Martelli puts in his book Python in a Nutshell
the exception mechanism with other languages (and applicable to Java)
is LBYL (Look Before You Leap) :
is to check in advance, before attempting an operation, for all circumstances that might make the operation invalid.
Where as with Python the approach is EAFP (it's easier to Ask for forgiveness than permission)
A corrollary to "Don't use classes for everything": callbacks.
The Java way for doing callbacks relies on passing objects that implement the callback interface (for example ActionListener with its actionPerformed() method). Nothing of this sort is necessary in Python, you can directly pass methods or even locally defined functions:
def handler():
print("click!")
button.onclick(handler)
Or even lambdas:
button.onclick(lambda: print("click!\n"))
[Later: Still can't figure out if Groovy has static typing (seems that it does not) or if the bytecode generated using explicit typing is different (seems that it is). Anyway, on to the question]
One of the main differences between Groovy and other dynamic languages -- or at least Ruby -- is that you can statically explicitly type variables when you want to.
That said, when should you use static typing in Groovy? Here are some possible answers I can think of:
Only when there's a performance problem. Statically typed variables are faster in Groovy. (or are they? some questions about this link)
On public interfaces (methods, fields) for classes, so you get autocomplete. Is this possible/true/totally wrong?
Never, it just clutters up code and defeats the purpose of using Groovy.
Yes when your classes will be inherited or used
I'm not just interested in what YOU do but more importantly what you've seen around in projects coded in Groovy. What's the norm?
Note: If this question is somehow wrong or misses some categories of static-dynamic, let me know and I'll fix it.
In my experience, there is no norm. Some use types a lot, some never use them. Personally, I always try to use types in my method signatures (for params and return values). For example I always write a method like this
Boolean doLogin(User user) {
// implementation omitted
}
Even though I could write it like this
def doLogin(user) {
// implementation omitted
}
I do this for these reasons:
Documentation: other developers (and myself) know what types will be provided and returned by the method without reading the implementation
Type Safety: although there is no compile-time checking in Groovy, if I call the statically typed version of doLogin with a non-User parameter it will fail immediately, so the problem is likely to be easy to fix. If I call the dynamically typed version, it will fail some time after the method is invoked, and the cause of the failure may not be immediately obvious.
Code Completion: this is particularly useful when using a good IDE (i.e. IntelliJ) as it can even provide completion for dynamically added methods such as domain class' dynamic finders
I also use types quite a bit within the implementation of my methods for the same reasons. In fact the only times I don't use types are:
I really want to support a wide range of types. For example, a method that converts a string to a number could also covert a collection or array of strings to numbers
Laziness! If the scope of a variable is very short, I already know which methods I want to call, and I don't already have the class imported, then declaring the type seems like more trouble than it's worth.
BTW, I wouldn't put too much faith in that blog post you've linked to claiming that typed Groovy is much faster than untyped Groovy. I've never heard that before, and I didn't find the evidence very convincing.
I worked on a several Groovy projects and we stuck to such conventions:
All types in public methods must be specified.
public int getAgeOfUser(String userName){
...
}
All private variables are declared using the def keyword.
These conventions allow you to achieve many things.
First of all, if you use joint compilation your java code will be able to interact with your groovy code easily. Secondly, such explicit declarations make code in large projects more readable and sustainable. And of-course auto-completion is an important benefit too.
On the other hand, the scope of a method is usually quite small that you don't need to declare types explicitly. By the way, modern IDEs can auto-complete your local variables even if you use defs.
I have seen type information used primarily in service classes for public methods. Depending on how complex the parameter list is, even here I usually see just the return type typed. For example:
class WorkflowService {
....
WorkItem getWorkItem(processNbr) throws WorkflowException {
...
...
}
}
I think this is useful because it explicitly tells the user of the service what type they will be dealing with and does help with code assist in IDE's.
Groovy does not support static typing. See it for yourself:
public Foo func(Bar bar) {
return bar
}
println("no static typing")
Save and compile that file and run it.
Is there any way we can inject new methods and properties into classes during run-time.
http://nurkiewicz.blogspot.com/2009/09/injecting-methods-at-runtime-to-java.html states we may do that by using Groovy.
Is it possible by just doing using Java?
Is it possible by just doing using
Java?
The simple answer is an emphatic "You don't want to do that!".
It is technically possible, but not without resorting to extremely complex, expensive and fragile tricks like bytecode modification1. And even then, you have to rely on dynamic loading to access the modified type and (probably) reflection to make use of its new members. In short, you would be creating lots of pain for yourself, for little if any gain.
Java is a statically typed language, and adding / modifying class type signatures can break the static typing contract of a class.
1 - AspectJ and the like allow you to inject additional behaviour into a class, but it is probably not the "runtime" injection that you are after. Certainly, the injected methods won't be available for statically compiled code to call.
So if you were really crazy, you could do something like what they outline here. What you could do is load the .java file, find the correct insertion point, add whatever methods you need to, call the java compiler and reload the class. Good luck debugging that mess though :)
Edit This actually might be of some use...
You can do some quite funky things with AOP, although genuine modification of classes at runtime is a pretty hairy technique that needs a lot of classloading magic and sleight of hand.
What is easier is using AOP techniques to generate a subclass of your target class and to introduce new methods into this instead, what AOP called a "mixin" or "introduction". See here to read how Spring AOP does it, although this may be quite lame compared to what you're actually trying to achieve.
Is it possible by just doing using Java?
Quite so, the "only" thing you have to do is define an instrumentation agent which supplies an appropriate ClassFileTransformer, and you'll have to use reflection to invoke the added methods. Odds are this isn't what you want to do, though, but it's doable and there's a well-defined interface for it. If you want to modify existing methods you may be interested in something like AspectJ.
While it might be possible, it is not useful.
How would you access these new fields and methods?
You could not use these methods and fields directly (as "ordinary" fields and methods), since they wouldn't be compiled in.
If all you want is the possibility to add "properties" and "methods", you can use a Map<String, Object> for the "dynamic properties", and a Map<String, SuitableInterface> for the "dynamic methods", and look them up by name.
If you need an extension language for Java, an embedded dynamic language (such as Javascript, or Groovy) can be added; most of these can access arbitrary java objects and methods.
C# has syntax for declaring and using properties. For example, one can declare a simple property, like this:
public int Size { get; set; }
One can also put a bit of logic into the property, like this:
public string SizeHex
{
get
{
return String.Format("{0:X}", Size);
}
set
{
Size = int.Parse(value, NumberStyles.HexNumber);
}
}
Regardless of whether it has logic or not, a property is used in the same way as a field:
int fileSize = myFile.Size;
I'm no stranger to either Java or C# -- I've used both quite a lot and I've always missed having property syntax in Java. I've read in this question that "it's highly unlikely that property support will be added in Java 7 or perhaps ever", but frankly I find it too much work to dig around in discussions, forums, blogs, comments and JSRs to find out why.
So my question is: can anyone sum up why Java isn't likely to get property syntax?
Is it because it's not deemed important enough when compared to other possible improvements?
Are there technical (e.g. JVM-related) limitations?
Is it a matter of politics? (e.g. "I've been coding in Java for 50 years now and I say we don't need no steenkin' properties!")
Is it a case of bikeshedding?
I think it's just Java's general philosophy towards things. Properties are somewhat "magical", and Java's philosophy is to keep the core language as simple as possible and avoid magic like the plague. This enables Java to be a lingua franca that can be understood by just about any programmer. It also makes it very easy to reason about what an arbitrary isolated piece of code is doing, and enables better tool support. The downside is that it makes the language more verbose and less expressive. This is not necessarily the right way or the wrong way to design a language, it's just a tradeoff.
For 10 years or so, sun has resisted any significant changes to the language as hard as they could. In the same period C# has been trough a riveting development, adding a host of new cool features with every release.
I think the train left on properties in java a long time ago, they would have been nice, but we have the java-bean specification. Adding properties now would just make the language even more confusing. While the javabean specification IMO is nowhere near as good, it'll have to do. And in the grander scheme of things I think properties are not really that relevant. The bloat in java code is caused by other things than getters and setters.
There are far more important things to focus on, such as getting a decent closure standard.
Property syntax in C# is nothing more than syntactic sugar. You don't need it, it's only there as a convenience. The Java people don't like syntactic sugar. That seems to be reason enough for its absence.
Possible arguments based on nothing more than my uninformed opinion
the property syntax in C# is an ugly
hack in that it mixes an
implementation pattern with the
language syntax
It's not really necessary, as it's fairly trivial.
It would adversly affect anyone paid based on lines of code.
I'd actually like there to be some sort of syntactical sugar for properties, as the whole syntax tends to clutter up code that's conceptually extremely simple. Ruby for one seems to do this without much fuss.
On a side note, I've actually tried to write some medium-sized systems (a few dozen classes) without property access, just because of the reduction in clutter and the size of the codebase. Aside from the unsafe design issues (which I was willing to fudge in that case) this is nearly impossible, as every framework, every library, every everything in java auto-discovers properties by get and set methods.They are with us until the very end of time, sort of like little syntactical training wheels.
I would say that it reflects the slowness of change in the language. As a previous commenter mentioned, with most IDEs now, it really is not that big of a deal. But there are no JVM specific reasons for it not to be there.
Might be useful to add to Java, but it's probably not as high on the list as closures.
Personally, I find that a decent IDE makes this a moot point. IntelliJ can generate all the getters/setters for me; all I have to do is embed the behavior that you did into the methods. I don't find it to be a deal breaker.
I'll admit that I'm not knowledgeable about C#, so perhaps those who are will overrule me. This is just my opinion.
If I had to guess, I'd say it has less to do with a philosophical objection to syntactic sugar (they added autoboxing, enhanced for loops, static import, etc - all sugar) than with an issue with backwards compatibility. So far at least, the Java folks have tried very hard to design the new language features in such a way that source-level backwards compatibility is preserved (i.e. code written for 1.4 will still compile, and function, without modification in 5 or 6 or beyond).
Suppose they introduce the properties syntax. What, then does the following mean:
myObj.attr = 5;
It would depend on whether you're talking about code written before or after the addition of the properties feature, and possibly on the definition of the class itself.
I'm not saying these issues couldn't be resolved, but I'm skeptical they could be resolved in a way that led to a clean, unambiguous syntax, while preserving source compatibility with previous versions.
The python folks may be able to get away with breaking old code, but that's not Java's way...
According to Volume 2 of Core Java (Forgotten the authors, but it's a very popular book), the language designers thought it was a poor idea to hide a method call behind field access syntax, and so left it out.
It's the same reason that they don't change anything else in Java - backwards-compatibility.
- Is it because it's not deemed important enough when compared to other possible improvements?
That's my guess.
- Are there technical (e.g. JVM-related) limitations?
No
- Is it a matter of politics? (e.g. "I've been coding in Java for 50 years now and I say: we don't need no steenkin' properties!")
Most likely.
- Is it a case of bikeshedding?
Uh?
One of the main goals of Java was to keep the language simple.
From the: Wikipedia
Java suppresses several features [...] for classes in order to simplify the language and to prevent possible errors and anti-pattern design.
Here are a few little bits of logic that, for me, lead up to not liking properties in a language:
Some programming structures get used because they are there, even if they support bad programming practices.
Setters imply mutable objects. Something to use sparsely.
Good OO design you ask an object to do some business logic. Properties imply that you are asking it for data and manipulating the data yourself.
Although you CAN override the methods in setters and getters, few ever do; also a final public variable is EXACTLY the same as a getter. So if you don't have mutable objects, it's kind of a moot point.
If your variable has business logic associated with it, the logic should GENERALLY be in the class with the variable. IF it does not, why in the world is it a variable??? it should be "Data" and be in a data structure so it can be manipulated by generic code.
I believe Jon Skeet pointed out that C# has a new method for handling this kind of data, Data that should be compile-time typed but should not really be variables, but being that my world has very little interaction with the C# world, I'll just take his word that it's pretty cool.
Also, I fully accept that depending on your style and the code you interact with, you just HAVE to have a set/get situation every now and then. I still average one setter/getter every class or two, but not enough to make me feel that a new programming structure is justified.
And note that I have very different requirements for work and for home programming. For work where my code must interact with the code of 20 other people I believe the more structured and explicit, the better. At home Groovy/Ruby is fine, and properties would be great, etc.
You may not need for "get" and "set" prefixes, to make it look more like properties, you may do it like this:
public class Person {
private String firstName = "";
private Integer age = 0;
public String firstName() { return firstName; } // getter
public void firstName(String val) { firstName = val; } // setter
public Integer age() { return age; } // getter
public void age(Integer val) { age = val; } //setter
public static void main(String[] args) {
Person p = new Person();
//set
p.firstName("Lemuel");
p.age(40);
//get
System.out.println(String.format("I'm %s, %d yearsold",
p.firstName(),
p.age());
}
}