Does anyone know if there is any equivalent to Microsoft's ASP.NET Model View Control Framework with Visual Studio/C# but for Eclipse with Java?
Or put it another way one could build a website in C# using MS Visual Studio with ASP.NET MVC, is there anything similar for Java using the Eclipse IDE?
I've built up good knowledge with Java and the Eclipse IDE creating some Android Apps that I'd like to leverage, now I need to turn my attention to web apps and I'd like to stick with Java and the Eclipse IDE. Cheers!
There are a bunch. I'd check out Play!
but there are also: Apache Wicket, Spring MVC and some others.
There is also a version of Play! for Scala which is a bonus if you intend on moving up from Java to Scala one day.
There is also a similar question with a more detailed answer here:
Choosing a Java Web Framework now?
Spring MVC is worth a look. Spring goes way beyond "just" MVC, with APIS for DB, JMS, and loads more, which may be a little offputting if you're just keen to get to grips with an MVC platform, but it's arguably worth it.
http://static.springsource.org/spring/docs/current/spring-framework-reference/html/mvc.html
http://static.springsource.org/docs/Spring-MVC-step-by-step/
Tapestry or Wicket is worth trying.
Yes, there are a lot of them. Your problem is that there are too many, actually. Narrowing down the list can be a challenge. Everybody has their favorites (mine is Apache Tapestry, because it's actually fun to use, and very powerful).
My recommendation is to pick 3 or 4 (I'd go with Tapestry, GWT, Spring MVC and Wicket), and then spend a couple days working through the introductory tutorial that each of them offers. You'll soon know which one feels right to you, and you'll be basing your decision on your own experience rather than the strongly-worded opinions of strangers.
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At my work I'm using C#, Microsoft SQL Server, Windows Server and Microsoft Visual Studio. As you can see I'm totally in the Microsoft world.
But i want to broaden my development knowledge and start with java again. I had java classes at school, but my first development job was in .Net VB and till then I'm stuck in the .Net world. It's not that I don't like .Net. I love Visual Studio in combination with R#, and the SQL Management Studio is also very easy to use and very comfortable.
I have good knowledge of ASP.Net Webforms and started with the release of ASP.NET MVC 2 creating intranet applications using this platform.
I want to create small web applications at home with java and want to know, what tools you, as an experienced java developer, can recommend me.
For the IDE: I've used eclipse in version 3 i think and it was around 2004. Is it still a good free IDE or are there now some better ones? Or would you recommend NetBeans or the community edition of IntelliJ for web development?
Is the equivalent of Asp.Net MVC the Spring Framework in Java?
What else do I have to look for, for a smooth switch from java to .net?
Thanks in advance to everybody...
I would go with Intellij, but that is a personal preference.
As for Spring, it definitely is a useful tool to have in your back pocket or on your resume. It provides most of the stack you'll need to develop an application. The biggest missing part is persistence. It interacts with all the popular persistence frameworks out there, Hibernate being the one I would use, so that isn't really an issue.
If you don't like the Spring web framework, you can with others like Struts2. You can use Struts2 with Spring instead of their own MVC framework. Also, there's Guice, which is a dependency injection framework like Spring, which I like better than Spring.
There's also the Play! framework, which attempts to be a full stack like Rails. I've only looked at it briefly so I don't know too much about it. It looks good, though.
Just my 2 cents.
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Hi All,
I'm thinking about which framework to choose for web applications. There are so many web frameworks and I'm afraid of trying all of them - it could be time consuming and I wouldn't have to found much with simple examples.
I have experience with jsp, jsf1.2, struts1. I can say I don't like pure jsp with tags. Struts1 again is quite similar to jsp in my view but a bit better. I do like jsf, I find it quite simple to use :), but I'm worried about performance. We used icefaces and lack of get support was really bad.
I know there exist other frameworks, like spring mvc - could be good? . grails, ruby on rails, wicket, gwt, struts2,jsf2
What I need, I'd like to have a versatile framework which doesn't restrict me and at the same time it's no problem to create features e.g: ajax.A bit easier to develop in but still fast I would be scared to sacrifice performance for ease of development.
I do not have any production experience with other frameworks I named.Do you have? Could you share it please? What would you use?
Thank you very much.
Any experience appreciated.
Here's my take:
I have experience with jsp, jsf1.2, struts1.
You have my condolences.
I can say I don't like pure jsp with
tags. Struts1 again is quite similar
to jsp in my view but a bit better. I
do like jsf, I find it quite simple to
use :), but I'm worried about
performance. We used icefaces and lack
of get support was really bad.
I don't care for JSF or Struts.x at all.
I know there exist other frameworks,
like spring mvc - could be good?
Yes, Spring is very good. It's much, much more than a web MVC framework as well. It's performant, it's got traction, it's got the financial backing of VMWare. I think it's the clear winner in the Java EE space.
. grails.
Grails is built on Spring and Hibernate.
, ruby on rails,
Not Java.
wicket,
Could be good. I have no experience with it.
gwt
Write Swing, turn it into JavaScript. I have no experience with it.
I think Spring is a clear winner. It's been on top for five years and hasn't lost a thing.
For a presentation layer framework: There is plenty to choose and I cannot really recommend one over another as I have only worked with one or two.
For a general framework to build your application, I recommend Spring. It is well known, support is ok and it is usually very easy to hook whatever specific-purpose framework you may want to use.
http://www.jodd.org/ seems to be a very good, fast and open framework that includes many facets needed for webapplications.
For the presentation layer, GWT with Uibinder could really match your demands :
you build your pages with xml
(pretty much like jsf/facelets)
it's designed to be fast
it's a google product, with a really
big community
it's really well integrated with
eclipse and easy to start using it
I've been doing quite large application recently with Java - Swing. Now I'd like to move to web. Basically - I am not Microsoft guy, Java is fine with me. I've checked some basics of Java EE framework and decided that my choice will be Spring. I already am familiar with JDBC. Learning Spring is one thing, but working just with GUIs (C++ and Java) means that I have very poor knowledge of web development.
Before I start reading tutorials of Spring MVC, what should I know to develop web solutions? I am mainly interested "how to" with graphics ... start from scratch or some nice IDE RAD-like development ? I kind of like f.e. Silverlight and integrating to web or asp.net win forms - allows us 'GUI' people develop faster. So can you please give me some useful advices?
Thanx
You might want to check http://code.google.com/webtoolkit/ for some client-side GUI javascript code compilationn from Java language. The code might even look like Swing in a way :)
Another thing of note is, perhaps you might want to use something like Hibernate with Spring instead of using JDBC.
In web, the GUI is mainly done by CSS. You can find here a quick CSS tutorial/reference. You get here some ideas of the capabilities of CSS. The "raw" UI part is done by plain HTML, which are in case of a Java EE webapplication usually served up from good old JSP files or in case of JSF, Sun's own MVC framework, also from XHTML files, powered by Facelets.
Talking about JSF, there exist several rich UI component libraries which can be used on top of JSF, such as RichFaces (showcase here) and IceFaces (showcase here). With those libraries you don't need to pull the hairs out to do the CSS based look'n'feel work.
Spring MVC doesn't offer any rich UI component libraries like that. Spring is in my honest opinion also obsolete in the improved Java EE 6 API which (finally) offers many Spring-like facilities out of the box.
Before you start learning Spring, consider Grails. It is built on top of Spring and Hibernate and it is much easier to learn and use. Grails use Groovy, but if you know java, learning groovy is very fast. Developing Java EE or Spring apps is just too painful and boring. And you can use grails with NetBeans or Eclipse.
I am a reasonably competent programmer, with about 11 years experience.
I particularly like Ruby/Rails and ActionScript.
And Java is easy enough, I've used it for ordinary applications, and mostly as ones that run on the server, just not web-based ones.
I'd like to develop a web application in Java in order to leverage things like BlazeDS and help tie front-ends together with my previously-written Java apps. i.e. use existing Java code but in a web context.
But I'm having trouble - and confused - looking for a smooth start. I don't want to use Grails, been there, thanks, I want to use Pure Java, with whatever Framework you can think of. Spring, Hibernate, etc.
Where do I start?
Play Framework lets you get started quickly. http://www.playframework.org/
Spring Roo is a RAD framework for web apps. It's similar to like Rails or Grails, but uses code generation instead of metaprogramming magic.
This thread contains useful pointers on starting Java web development
http://www.daniweb.com/forums/thread249070.html
Since your goal is "Pure Java," how about Wicket? Straight from their feature list:
Wicket does not mix markup with Java code and adds no special syntax to your markup files. The worlds of HTML and Java are parallel and associated only by Wicket ids, which are attributes in HTML and Component properties in Java. Since Wicket HTML is just HTML and Wicket Java is just Java, coders and designers can work independently to a large degree and without relying on any special tools.
If you want more info, there's a web page on why you should use Wicket.
I've really enjoyed working with Spring MVC. It took a while to ramp up with Spring, but the whole affair has just made since after investing the time.
I have found JavaServer Faces 2.0 using Facelets to be a good compromise between power and ease of use, plus it allows you to use a lot of extra libraries when you get more advanced.
For JBoss you need to include JSF in your web application. Download the 2.0.2 distribution and see the documentation in there.
Im porting a project from php to java. The project is a web-app based on php and ajax techniques with a javascript front-end. What java-frameworks would you use for something like this?
Does the result have to be written in Java, or does it just have to run on the JVM? In the latter case, you might want to consider Grails, which uses Groovy, a Java-based dynamic language that compiles to Java byte code and has full access to the Java standard API.
How well do you know Java?
Why are you porting it?
I can't really tell based on your description, but there are lots of Java web frameworks out there. Pick one. I prefer Spring.
I fear that you're about to be very disappointed. I anticipate a lot of questions like "Why can't I do X in Java? It's easy in PHP!"
Apache Wicket is a possible java based web framework you might consider. The default would be the java servlet and jsp frameworks.
without seeing the source code - you will need a complete rewrite. just "porting" will probably not work.
out of all available frameworks i'd recommend two: wicket if you want clean lightweight technology. with ajax. jsf/seam if you are in a corporate environment where it it easy to get tons of experienced developers.
I really like Stripes.
There's a really good book out on it too. Stripes ... and Java Web Development is Fun Again.
This question seems to come up alot. Related:
What Web Application Framework for Java is Recommended?
Best java mvc framework implementation for web apps
Does it make sense to use a framework for a simple java web app?
What language/platform to choose for a new web application?
In my opinion you would still do the same but generate the html with JSP and javabeans instead of php. javascripts and ajax will still work without a problem if the outputed html is the same.
It depends by the size of your project, the features and your resources.
If the project have'nt a lot of particular needs you can use Struts. Thsi is a stable framework, not really advanced but simple and powerfull for the development.
Another frameworks more recent and advanced are Spring and Wicket.
Before you start, I recommend you to do a check-list of your need:
Do you must porting a O/R mapping too?
Have you a stable developer knowing Java/J2EE?
Do you think to add some feature during the porting or in short-run?
etc etc
good luck! :)
I would port it to GWT
Google Web Toolkit (GWT) is a development toolkit for building and optimizing complex browser-based applications. Its goal is to enable productive development of high-performance web applications without the developer having to be an expert in browser quirks, XMLHttpRequest, and JavaScript. GWT is used by many products at Google, including Google Wave and the new version of AdWords. It's open source, completely free, and used by thousands of developers around the world.