OpenShift offers the possibility to develop Spring based applications using JBoss EAP6. I am considering migrating a Spring application developed/deployed on Tomcat 7.
I have little experience with JBoss. Am I going to go through many troubles if I migrate my application? If yes which? Are Tomcat 7 and JBoss EAP6 compatible?
It depends entirely on your application.
The servlet container in JBoss 6 is based on Tomcat 6. If you are using any new features in Tomcat 7 (e.g. extensions in the Servlet 3.0 or JSP 2.2 spec), these will not run on JBoss 6.
The general response will be yes, JBoss will provide all the standard elments Tomcat does. But it is always possible to make it not compatible (using directly some tomcat class, JBoss Web use a different name space and there is no 1:1 corespondances).
I most cases you will need to make some litle addaptation (add some configuraiton and properties, change datasource name...).
JBoss AS7 documentation contains some Spring integration elements.
Some elments provided by default in JBoss may give you some trouble (like JPA), but if you have full controle on the application source, you should be able to get it working without lot of efforts.
Without inside on your application it will be difficult to give concreate effort estimate.
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Can I deploy a Spring java application on all (or at least most) of JavaEE servers ? like Weblogic, JBoss, Webshpere, Tomcat, Jettty etc.
And is there is preferred Java EE server for Spring ?
Yes you can. And no - there isn´t. Errata: you can take a look at the SpringSource dm Server. Be aware that spring is not a java EE implementation. Read this post here.
Yes, you can deploy it on any server, and you can use it on standalone applications and even on mobile applications. It is in no way restricted to web deployment. It is not even restricted to java, there is Spring.NET and even a Python version. However, java and web servers are a common if not the most common use for it.
Currently recommended web server by VMWare/Pivotal (current owner of Spring) is VFabric tcServer, which is a Tomcat fork containing some extra tools and functionality. But server in itself does not matter, Spring is container agnostic.
There is no preferred EE server. VFabric tcServer is a servlet container, not an EE server. It contains "enterprise capabilities" instead, but that's not the same thing. As said however, you can use whichever EE server you want.
If I use Glassfish and only need jersey for jax-rs and grizzly for servlet/jsp, will glassfish load all other Java EE components I don't need and take more up more resources than just running jersey/tomcat or will glassfish just load jersey/grizzly and will use almost the same resources? I have tried running starting default glassfish and default tomcat, glassfish takes much more ram.
Is there any reason not to run jersey with tomcat? maybe because the integration is done better by Glassfish?
There are lots of people who use Jersey with Tomcat. Tomcat is a servlet container only but will not interfere with other Java EE technologies that you choose to support through other means (e.g. Jersey). You may have to manage some of the initialization of the frameworks, etc. that other full-J2EE containers like Glassfish already provide, but it shouldn't be too painful.
You can use the 'web profile' to help minimize the download, initial memory and start-up time.
The most recent web profile is http://dlc.sun.com.edgesuite.net/glassfish/3.1.2.2/release/glassfish-3.1.2.2-web.zip
The start-up time is between Tomcat and the GlassFish 'full' profile.
The web profile includes an integrated implementation of Jersey.
I am looking for a single sign on framework in java which supports Weblogic 10.3 and Jboss 4.2.2 and 5.1. JOSSO supports weblogic and jboss both but I am having lot of problems in weblogic (Session expiry issues, its not working on root context, different workflow for jboss and weblogic etc.). I am tired of JOSSO now. Please suggest me a stable SSO framework which works in jboss and weblogic.
What about an alternative like OpenID?
If you are able to use Spring security you can choose from several SSO options including CAS, Cloudseal and OpenId. A great benefit of Spring is that it sits at the application level (i.e. inside the WAR/EAR) and therefore eliminates many of the platform specific "gotchas" like the ones you are experiencing.
Of course if you aren't able to use Spring my solution is of little use! :)
Cloudseal includes a standard Java EE servlet filter which certainly works on JBoss (I have used it). I haven't tried it on Weblogic though.
I am starting to look into Enterprise Java and the book I am following mentions that it will use JBoss. Netbeans ships with Glassfish. I have used Tomcat in the past.
What are the differences between these three programs?
Tomcat is just a servlet container, i.e. it implements only the servlets and JSP specification. Glassfish and JBoss are full Java EE servers (including stuff like EJB, JMS, ...), with Glassfish being the reference implementation of the latest Java EE 6 stack, but JBoss in 2010 was not fully supporting it yet.
Tomcat is merely an HTTP server and Java servlet container. JBoss and GlassFish are full-blown Java EE application servers, including an EJB container and all the other features of that stack. On the other hand, Tomcat has a lighter memory footprint (~60-70 MB), while those Java EE servers weigh in at hundreds of megs. Tomcat is very popular for simple web applications, or applications using frameworks such as Spring that do not require a full Java EE server. Administration of a Tomcat server is arguably easier, as there are fewer moving parts.
However, for applications that do require a full Java EE stack (or at least more pieces that could easily be bolted-on to Tomcat)... JBoss and GlassFish are two of the most popular open source offerings (the third one is Apache Geronimo, upon which the free version of IBM WebSphere is built). JBoss has a larger and deeper user community, and a more mature codebase. However, JBoss lags significantly behind GlassFish in implementing the current Java EE specs. Also, for those who prefer a GUI-based admin system... GlassFish's admin console is extremely slick, whereas most administration in JBoss is done with a command-line and text editor. GlassFish comes straight from Sun/Oracle, with all the advantages that can offer. JBoss is NOT under the control of Sun/Oracle, with all the advantages THAT can offer.
You should use GlassFish for Java EE enterprise applications.
Some things to consider:
A web Server means: Handling HTTP requests (usually from
browsers).
A Servlet Container (e.g. Tomcat) means: It can handle
servlets & JSP.
An Application Server (e.g. GlassFish) means: *It can manage
Java EE applications (usually both servlet/JSP and EJBs).
Tomcat - is run by Apache community - Open source and has two flavors:
Tomcat - Web profile - lightweight which is only servlet container and does not support Java EE features like EJB, JMS etc.
Tomcat EE - This is a certified Java EE container, this supports all Java EE technologies.
No commercial support available (only community support)
JBoss - Run by RedHat
This is a full-stack support for JavaEE and it is a certified Java EE container.
This includes Tomcat as web container internally.
This also has two flavors:
Community version called Application Server (AS) - this will have only community support.
Enterprise Application Server (EAP) - For this, you can have a subscription-based license (It's based on the number of Cores you have on your servers.)
Glassfish - Run by Oracle
This is also a full stack certified Java EE Container. This has its own web container (not Tomcat).
This comes from Oracle itself, so all new specs will be tested and implemented with Glassfish first. So, always it would support the latest spec. I am not aware of its support models.
jboss and glassfish include a servlet container(like tomcat), however the two application servers (jboss and glassfish) also provide a bean container (and a few other things aswell I imagine)
It seems a bit discouraging to use Tomcat when you read these answers. However what most fail to mention is that you can get to identical or almost identical use cases with tomcat but that requires you to add the libraries needed (through Maven or whatever include system you use).
I have been running tomcat with JPA, EJBs with very small configuration efforts.
JBoss and Glassfish are basically full Java EE Application Server whereas Tomcat is only a Servlet container.
The main difference between JBoss, Glassfish but also WebSphere, WebLogic and so on respect to Tomcat but also Jetty, was in the functionality that an full app server offer. When you had a full stack Java EE app server you can benefit of all the implementation of the vendor of your choice, and you can benefit of EJB, JTA, CDI(JAVA EE 6+), JPA, JSF, JSP/Servlet of course and so on. With Tomcat on the other hands you can benefit only of JSP/Servlet. However to day with advanced Framework such as Spring and Guice, many of the main advantage of using an a full stack application server can be mitigate, and with the assumption of a one of this framework manly with Spring Ecosystem, you can benefit of many sub project that in the my work experience let me to left the use of a full stack app server in favour of lightweight app server like tomcat.
Both JBoss and Tomcat are Java servlet application servers, but JBoss is a whole lot more. The substantial difference between the two is that JBoss provides a full Java Enterprise Edition (Java EE) stack, including Enterprise JavaBeans and many other technologies that are useful for developers working on enterprise Java applications.
Tomcat is much more limited. One way to think of it is that JBoss is a Java EE stack that includes a servlet container and web server, whereas Tomcat, for the most part, is a servlet container and web server.
Apache tomcat is just an only serverlet container it does not support for Enterprise Java application(JEE). JBoss and Glassfish are supporting for JEE application but Glassfish much heavy than JBOSS server : Reference Slide
I have an application that was written on JBoss 3.2.5 and I am tasked with migrating it to JBoss 5.
I am unable to deploy the application because it relies on JBoss MQ, which I read has been replaced by JBoss Messaging.
Is there any way I can get the app to work on JBoss 5 without making any code changes? Config changes are OK.
Actually JBoss Messaging is already being replaced by HornetQ.
In JBoss Application Sever 6.0, HornetQ will be the default messaging provider.
http://jboss.org/hornetq/
Is there any way I can get the app to
work on JBoss 5 without making any
code changes? Config changes are OK.
Assuming that your code is written to the JMS API, then yes, you probably can. However, don't underestimate how different JBossMQ is from JBossMessaging, the configuration is completely different.
Depending on how hard your app pushes the JMS API, you may get behavioural differences, but the odds are you'll be fine, as long as you can reconfigure JBossMessages within JBoss5 appropriately.
Another option is to move to JBoss 4.2, which still has JBossMQ, but is miles ahead of JBoss 3.2. Much of the functionality that JBoss5 gives you can be done with JBoss 4 (e.g. it has partial JavaEE 5 support).
JBossMQ will be replaced by JBoss Messaging in JBoss AS 5.0.
A good starting point to find out how to migrate would be JBossMQ