Java EE vs Java SE: version mismatch? [duplicate] - java

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Correlation between Java EE / J2EE to J2SE / JDK versions
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I've been wondering if there is a correlation between versions of Java EE working on top of Java SE. I've found this question, but the answers there are outdated and not satisfying. My question is:
is there a tight coupling between EE and SE versions so that java EE 8 will only work with Java 1.8, java ee 7 will work only with java 1.7 and so on?
if above is false (i.e. you can mix versions), is above the preferred way? Does it make sense to run java EE 6 on java SE 1.8 (just an example)?
I know that Java EE is just a bag of specifications, but do these specifications enforce java SE version anyhow?

It's rather about which SE versions EE server can work with. Like here https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/JBoss_Enterprise_Application_Platform/6/html/Installation_Guide/Java_Environments_Supported_By_JBoss_Enterprise_Application_Platform_61.html

As per oracle document here
Java EE
The Java EE platform is built on top of the Java SE platform. The Java
EE platform provides an API and runtime environment for developing and
running large-scale, multi-tiered, scalable, reliable, and secure
network applications.
So ideally Java SE must be higher or equivalent version when compared to JAVA EE. According to this statement its possible to run java EE 6 on java SE 1.8 and not the other-way round.

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I understand the difference between Java SE and EE. But how do they relate on a real application?

I've read the sentence "Java EE is an extension for Java SE (a plain Java version)".
I'm having difficulties in understanding how they relate on a real application. For instance, if I had a Web Application, which of the following examples can be true?
I use Java EE 8. It is built over a specific Java SE version (which?). The moment I configure my project with Java EE 8, there's no need to configure any Java SE.
I use Java EE 8. This means I need to configure a SE version. It's a good idea to use Java EE 8 and Java SE 11 on my project, for example.
Something else.
Any example on how to configure this in real project, preferably Eclipse / Red Hat CodeReady Studio is greatly appreciated.

Can I use any version of Java SE with Java EE 8?

With every new release of Java EE, there's a bunch of new improvements and additions to the technology stack that come under it. JSF, JPA, EJBs will all have different versions associated with this new release. (Java EE 8 - JSF 2.3, JSP2.3, JPA 2.2, EJBs 3.2)
Java SE platform is releasing new version of Java SE every 6 months or so. How does this change fit in with the Java EE?
For example, if I'm developing an application in Java EE 8 which Java SE(9,10,11,12) should I use?
1. Can I use any version of Java SE with Java EE? (Java EE 8 + Java SE 11) or (Java EE 8 + Java SE 8) or (Java EE 8 + Java SE 10).
How does Java EE handles the ever changing Java SE? Because there's specific version specified for every technology used in Java EE 8 like JSF 2.3, JSP2.3, JPA 2.2, EJBs 3.2 .
2. Why isn't a specific version of Java SE used in Java EE to do the programming?
JDK 8+ is required, but...
It actually depends on your Java EE 8 vendor.
Java EE 8 (a.k.a. Jakarta EE) has a few API elements that require JDK 8, so the definitive baseline is at least JDK 8.
For instance, I use Wildfly 16 (= Java EE 8) with JDK 12 and it works flawlessly so far, though JDK 8 is required.
Other vendors like Glassfish, Weblogic might require different versions. Glassfish, for instance doesn't work yet on JDK 9+.

Alternate of JWS (java web start) in java 11 [duplicate]

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I'm confused about the status of Java Web Start. On Oracle's Support Roadmap we can read this:
Support of Deployment Technology
The web deployment technology, consisting of the Java Plugin and Web Start technologies, has a shorter support lifecycle. For major releases through Java SE 8, Oracle provides five (5) years of Premier Support for these technologies. Extended Support is not available for the deployment stack, and will not be available for support beyond Java SE 9. See the Oracle Lifetime Support Policy for details.
Deployment Technology for Java SE 6 and Java SE 7 may be removed at any time after Jun 2017. Although the deployment stack may be included in Java SE 9 or later releases, Java SE 8 is the recommended and only supported version of the deployment stack.
Now, we have known for quite some time that applets and the Java Plugin were to be removed in a future version of Java, but I had never read about Java Web Start being a candidate for removal.
In Oracle's Java Platform, Standard Edition Deployment Guide#Getting Started (a Java 9 documentation page), Java Web Start is advertised as an alternative to the deprecated applet technology:
Although available and supported in JDK 9, the Applet API and the Java Plug-in are marked as deprecated in preparation for removal in a future release. Alternatives for applets and embedded JavaFX applications include Java Web Start and self-contained applications.
Am I worrying for nothing or I have missed an announcement about the deprecation of Java Web Start?
So far I only know about https://openwebstart.com/
The project was created exactly to fill the gap.

Why doesn't exist Java EE Development Kit download?

I've been reading about differences between Java SE and Java EE. And everything it seems to be ok. But It seems doesn´t exists a Java EE JDK, is only a Java EE SDK.
Java EE 8 Platform SDK:
Java SE Development Kit
What is it that I am not understanding about Java EE and SE?
I read
Is there a Java EE JDK
but in simple words, why doesn't exist Java EE JDK?
To develop my comment, Will Hartung made a very good summary here:
Java SE -- Java Standard Edition, it happens to come in two versions: the JDK and JRE. JDK has the compiler and other tools.
Java EE -- Java Enterprise Edition is simply a standard, and a couple of libraries consisting mostly of just interfaces.
To put it simply, I used this analogy:
[The] question is like "there are cars and trucks. Why there is only garage and not garage for trucks? Because if you fix a car, you can fix a truck (more or less ^^)"

What do the Java versions mean in Websphere?

I am going to develop enterprise apps towards a WebSphere 8.5 server. WebSphere 8.5 works with Java EE 6 and Java SE 7.
So what does that mean as far as code development goes? Is Java EE just a set of additional enterprise libraries? Does Java EE 6 mean it uses Java 6 syntax? Can I use Java 7 syntax on an 8.5 server and still utilize the frameworks and webservices provided by Java EE 6?
Java EE is actually a set of specifications of various technologies. Each spec typically has an API (eg: javax.servlet.*, javax.ejb.* etc which is implemented by various vendors (eg: IBM websphere, JBoss, Weblogic etc). The idea is you only learn and write your code once, but you can use your code (with some adjustment) and your knowledge on various vendor implementation.
When you compile your war you typically have to include (for compilation purpose only -- not necessarily packaged) java ee api component of a particular version on your classpath (eg: java-servlet-2.5). The API component often has dependency to particular version of Java SE (eg: if the API / vendor implementation uses generics, it requires Java SE 5 or higher)
Java EE is required to be backward compatible, hence if you compile and package your war against Java EE 6 API, it will run on Java EE 7 container.
You don't necessarily have to use Java SE 7 API to run your code on Java EE 7, you can always compile your war against older version of Java EE API (hence older Java SE). New features will only available if you compile against latest version of the API.
Java EE specifications do target a specific Java SE release. For example, JSR 316 says: Java EE 6 is the Enterprise Edition of version 6 of the Java platform, and thus will be built on Java SE 6. Individual specs may still choose to be compatible with lower versions of Java SE, but never a higher version. Whether a Java EE implementation actually runs on a higher Java SE version that it was specced for depends on the implementation.
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So what does that mean as far as code development goes?
It means, that you should know Java SE to create apps with the Java EE standard. Java EE is based upon Java SE.
Java SE 7 tutorial
Java EE 6 tutorial
Is Java EE just a set of additional enterprise libraries?
Well, simplifying many things... Yes.
Does Java EE 6 mean it uses Java 6 syntax?
Can I use Java 7 syntax on an 8.5 server and still utilize the frameworks and webservices provided by Java EE 6?
You can use Java SE 7 syntax in Java EE 6 apps. But you can use Java SE 6 syntax too.

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