I have a Java app (deployed as a JAR file) that allows file sharing through SLLSockets. If all users use the same certificate, file transfers are not secure, since it violates the core concept of asymmetric encrypted communication. Therefore, I understand that each user needs to have its own certificate. This brings up my first question:
How can you generate a certificate programmatically, and where would you store it ? I don't want users to have to generate their own certificate with keytool, then have to tell the app where it is located.
Now, let's say my first question is answered and each user has its own certificate. Prior to opening the SSL connection between two hosts, you need to add each other's certificate to the trustStore. The only way I know to achieve this is by exchanging them through Sockets (note that I am using JGroups to exchange Socket connection info). This brings up my next two questions:
How do you guarantee authentication and integrity when exchanging the certificates ?
How do you programmatically add the received certificate to the trustStore ?
Finally, this whole post brings up my fourth question:
Are the steps described above the correct way to send data securely between two hosts, using SSLSocket asymmetric encrypted communication ?
You don't need client certificates necessarily.
Could you not use username/password authentication?
You can still secure the transfer just by using a server certificate.
Client certs are also kind of a pain, and not entirely secure. They tie you to a machine, and evil processes can read them. Smart cards mitigate this, but aren't free.
I'm using a C# server and a C# tcp client example I extracted from the MSDN and I have created a self signed certificate using makecert.exe. I have got this to communicate with one another and it seems to be working fine. Similarly I want to build an android tcp client that will communicate with the C# server. Do I need to create a certificates for the client or anything of that sort? If I do how do I import it in to android?
I imported the certificates that I created in to a java key store and used it on the android client side which worked for me. Following link will give anyone an insight in to creating the certificates which I found very useful. Click
I am writing a java app server that connects to another third party server over HTTPS. I would like to capture the traffic between these two servers (which is over HTTPS). The third party server's private key is not accessible to us. They have provided us pfx file which our server is using while making a connection to that thrird party server. Any tool I can use? I have seen several posts regarding this, but not sure which way works. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
The whole point of SSL is that you cannot do this... Check Diffie Hellman on why, even if you have the keys, you will not be able to decrypt traffic.
We need to implement two-way SSL on Google App Engine, where we send out web service requests using JAX-WS to a server requring 2-way SSL authentication.
How can we set up 2-way SSL for our outgoing web service requests?
We know that javax.net.ssl* is forbidden in the App Engine environment.
Here's an example of our code:
#WebService(name="ListenerSoap", targetNamespace = "http://example.com/Listener.Wsdl")
#SOAPBinding(parameterStyle = SOAPBinding.ParameterStyle.BARE)
public interface ListenerSoap {
#WebMethod(operationName = "Ping", action="http://example.com/Listener.Wsdl#Ping")
public void ping();
}
#WebServiceClient(name="Listener", targetNamespace="http://example.com/Listener.Wsdl", wsdlLocation = "https://example.com/Listener.asmx?WSDL")
public class Listener extends Service
{
public ListenerSoap getListenerSoap() {
return super.getPort(new QName("http://example.com/Listener.Wsdl",
"ListenerSoap"), ListenerSoap.class);
}
}
And an example of above code in use:
ListenerSoap soap = new Listener().getListenerSoap();
soap.ping();
I figure we can store the keystores or any certs needed in the DataStore as binary objects (though how to upload them is still a lil' vague to me).
How can we go about setting the necessary values needed for this web service to authenticate using 2-way SSL?
Thanks for any help
Update:
Through research I've seen this is how it can be done on a traditional server (one with filesystem access):
ListenerSoap soap = new Listener().getListenerSoap();
((BindingProvider) soap).getRequestContext().put("javax.net.ssl.keyStore", "client_cert.p12"
However, in this approach, client_cert.p12 is expected to be on the filesystem.
Additionally, SSLSocketFactory, SSLContext, KeyManager, and KeyManagerFactory all aren't allowed on GAE.
Update:
As of GAE SDK version 1.7.7. this should now be possible:
Similarly, Java developers can now use the javax.net.ssl package to make outbound SSL connections.
GAE 1.7.7 SDK Release Notes
From my restricted knowledge about SSL authorization, it seems you may be missing something of vital importance here; the certificates. Two-way SSL requires the client and server certificates to be in your keystore, which can be either a self-signed certificate( a pkcs12 or pem file, which you can easily generate with a few commands through shell) or a proprietary certificate issued by an authorized company like Thawte or Verisign.
Although I am not sure if that is the problem you are facing, but its good to check it out.
(Also, I am a newbie so please don't downvote my answer, just trying to suggest possible options.)
ListenerSoap soap = new Listener().getListenerSoap();
Hope it improves
Thanks
I know you might not want to hear this, but using SSL is expensive and problematic for two way communication. Depending on how much control you have over the server/client ends, I prefer a simple bi-directional pipe like web sockets and a data packet protocol that can simply implement AES. It really depends on the problem you are trying to solve.
It sounds like there is confusion over simple connection over SSL (https://...) and what is known as "mutual authentication" or "public key infrastructure (PKI)". You can actually do both or one independent of another. With the latter (what I think the original question is referring to), when you make a request to the server, the server will respond to you asking for a certificate which you must present to authenticate yourself.
To answer the specific question above (loading a keystore from binary data), I don't think that is really possible, since it's the Java runtime that picks up on your keystore. The only think you could do is load the bits from your datastore and temporarily write it to disk. Optionally delete it when the application exists. This I have done before and works fairly well. If you do this, I'd recommend using a location likely to be writable (such as System.getProperty("java.io.tmpdir"));), then after writing the file to disk, set the JVM properties (e.g. System.getProperties().put( "javax.net.ssl.keyStore","...");)
You will need App Engine's Socket API for this. This API is in trusted tester mode, so it's not available for everyone.
You can ask for an access gere : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dF9QR3pnQ2pNa0dqalViSTZoenVkcHc6MQ#gid=0
2-way SSL (from app hosted in GAE to outside world) is not supported as far as I know. I tried a sample app few months ago and was frustrated to find GAE does n't even support this basic feature.. and the documentations are n't clear either. You won't be able to present client cert when you contact a web-service.. there is no place to store it, the keystore cannot be accessed.
For what i know about two way SSL, you will have no link with Java EE code: two way SSL is a transport layer security: when your client application will try to create a secured HTTP connection (HTTPS) with the serve, the server will ask for a certificate and will approve or not this certificate. If the client certificate is approved, then a secured connection will be established on parties and they are allow to exchange some messages through this tunnel. But this process is done on the transport layer. Your code (on application layer) will never be informed of this process.
In order to established two way SSL, the setup is done on the application server setup for the SSL port.
I need to do this thing:
communicate using ssl from android terminal to a server;
each android client has its own certificate (we can say mutual authentication);
the ssl certificate must not be in the application (each person install his certificate on his phone).
How can I do it?
Obviously point 1) alone is easy (I build a keystore/truststore as explained in stackoverflow). The problem is in point 3).
Thanks,
Mario
If you are targeting Android 4.0 (ICS), you can use the system key store via the KeyChain API. For other versions, users need save their keystore somewhere (on the SD card/external storage, etc.) and let your app know where to find it.