I'm currently making a little multiplayer game with Java. Two clients connect to the server. When they are connected, in each round, they send a number to the server. They can do it simultaneously. I'm using threads to handle the socket's incoming data. If all the two clients have sent their number, the server sends data to the clients.
Currently, I'm doing this with a single while loop, something like this in pseudocode:
while(!readyForEvaluate){
readyForEvaluate = allClientSentData();
}
Where allClientData() returns a boolean, which checks logical variables, if player 1 and 2 have sent their number.
Basically, this solution is working for me, but my question is: Is there a more efficient way of solving this kind of problem, or what is the general solution?
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Ok, so let´s clarify the questions...
I'm studing Sockets in Java, from my understood until now, related to this subject are:
To make multiple clients to connect to only one address in the server (port), then it is necessary to assign each client connection to another thread
Based on that I got confused about somethings AND could not find any acceptable answer here or at Google until now.
If Socket is synchronous, what happens if 2 clients try to connect AT THE SAME TIME and how the server decides who will connect first?
How the server process multiple messages from one client? I mean, does it process in order? Return ordered?
Same question above BUT with multiple messages from multiple clients?
If the messages are not ordered, how to achieve that? (in java)
Sorry about all those questions but for me all of them are related...
Edit:
As the comment said, I misunderstood the concept of synchronization, so changed that part.
Guys we ask here to LEARN not to get judged by other SO think about that before giving -1 vote ok.
what happens if 2 clients try to connect AT THE SAME TIME
It is impossible for 2 clients to connect at exactly the same time: networking infrastructure guarantees it. Two requests happening at the exact same time is called a collision (wikipedia), and the network handles it in some way: it can be through detection or through avoidance.
How the server process multiple messages from one client? I mean, does it process in order?
Yes. The Socket class API uses the TCP/IP protocol, which includes sequence numbers in every segment, and re-orders segments so that they are processed in the order they are sent, which may be different from the order they are received.
If you used DatagramSocket instead, that would use UDP, which does not guarantee ordering.
Same question above BUT with multiple messages from multiple clients?
There are no guarantees of the relative ordering of segments sent from multiple sources.
i am trying to create a server that just waits for users to connect (TCP method) and once 2 users connect, the server lets them talk to each other.
because the server waits for an endless amount of users, i know i need to use threads, but- my problem is i don't know how to enable constant read/write flow.
lets say 2 users connected to my server and i want them to talk. each user needs to be able to write as many lines as he wants without waiting for the other user. every program we were shown was more of a "write, wait for input, write again" kind of program(in a simple loop), but i want my program to keep listening for input all the time, and show it when it arrives.
the output is rather simple, i have a JTextField with a listener- so every time the user wants to write he hits 'enter'- and the listener knows to send the output. but how do i keep a constant listener for incoming Strings from the server? is there a special listener that can be used every time the client side detects an input?
You may want to use something like IRC protocol, https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc1459. Maybe this will help ? https://github.com/pircbotx/pircbotx
I have an issue that is driving me crazy! Both design-wise and tech-wise.
I have a need to listen to a LOT of multicast addresses. They are divided into 3 groups per item that I am monitoring/collecting. I have gone down the road of having one process spin-up 100 threads. Each thread uses 2 ports, and three addresses/groups. (2 of the groups are on same port) I am using MulticastChannel for each port, and using SELECT to monitor for data. (I have used datagram but found NIO MulticastChannel much better).
Anyway, I am seeing issues where I can subscribe to about a thousand of these threads, and data hums along nicely. Problem is, after a while I will have some of them stop receiving data. I have confirmed with the system (CentOS) that I am still subscribed to these addresses, but data just stops. I have monitors in my threads that monitor data drops and out-of-order via the RTP headers. When I detect that a thread has stopped getting data, I do a DROP/JOIN, and data then resumes.
I am thinking that a router in my path is dropping my subscription.
I am at my wits end writing code to stabilize this process.
Has anyone ever sent IGMP joins out the network to keep the data flowing? Is this possible, or even reasonable.
BTW: The computer is a HP DL380 Gen-9 with a 10G fiber connection to a 6509 switch.
Any pointers on where to look would really help.
Please do not ask for any code examples.
The joinGroup() operation already sends out IGMP requests on the network. It shouldn't be necessary to send them out yourself, and it isn't possible in pure Java anyway.
You could economize on sockets and threads. A socket can join up to about 20 groups on most operating systems, and if you're using NIO and selectors there's no need for more than one thread anyway.
I have used datagram but found NIO MulticastChannel much better).
I don't know what this means. If you're referring to DatagramSocket, you can't use it for receiving multicasts, so the sentence is pointless. If you aren't, the sentence is meaningless.
I am learning socket and server/client model concept and having a hard time understanding the server client concept. If a client sends a request, can server sends more than one respond? Or we have to put everything in one respond?
For a memory game program, when a client click a card, the action will send a request to server in order to turn the card in every player's program, if the second card does not match, the server tells players wait 2 secs, turn the 2 cards back, and then assign turn to next player. Can a server does this in multiple responds or it has to do it in single respond? Since no client requests for some responds, so I don't know if it is achievable or not.
If you're talking about TCP connections, after the connection has established client and server are equivalent, both are free to send data as long and as much they like and/or shut down their end of the connection.
Edit: After several passes I think i have understood what the second paragraph of your question is aiming for.
There is, of course, nothing which would stop the server from doing anything.. What your server seems to do, most of the time, is blocking on a InputStream.read() operation. If you want the server to operate even when no network input happens, one solution might be to use a read timeout, or check the input stream for readability before actually reading.
This is not your complete answer.
For one request, you get one response back.
Please read on this information in wikipedia for the basics
"Request-response, also known as request-reply, is a message exchange pattern in which a requestor sends a request message to a replier system which receives and processes the request, ultimately returning a message in response. This is a simple, but powerful messaging pattern which allows two applications to have a two-way conversation with one another over a channel. This pattern is especially common in client-server architectures.1
For simplicity, this pattern is typically implemented in a purely synchronous fashion, as in web service calls over HTTP, which holds a connection open and waits until the response is delivered or the timeout period expires. However, request-response may also be implemented asynchronously, with a response being returned at some unknown later time. This is often referred to as "sync over async", or "sync/async", and is common in enterprise application integration (EAI) implementations where slow aggregations, time-intensive functions, or human workflow must be performed before a response can be constructed and delivered."
I've been thinking about this all day, i dont really think if the Title is the correct one but here it goes, let me explain my situation: Im working on a project, a server made in Java for clients made in Delphi. Conections are good, multiple clients with its own threads, i/o working good. The clients send Strings to the server which i read with BufferedReader. Depending on the reserved words the server receives, it makes an action. Before the client sends the string, it inserts information to a SQL Server database so the server can go and check it after getting the order/command via socket. The server obtains the information in the database, process it, and send it to... let's call it "The Dark Side".
At the moment that the transaction is done, and the info is sent to the dark side, the server inserts the information... cough cough, dark information into a database table so the client can go and take what it requested. BUT, i need to report that to the client! ("Yo, check again the database bro, what you want is there :3").
The conection, the socket is made in other class. Not the one that i want to use to answer to the client, so if i dont have the socket, i dont have the OutputStream, which i need to talk back. That class, the one processing and sending information to the dark side, is going to be working with hundred of transactions in group.
My Issue is here: I can't report to the client that is done because i dont have the sockets references in that class. I instance the clients thread like:
new Client(socket).start();
Objects without references variables, but, i have an option i can take: Store the Sockets and their ip's in a HashMap object at the moment that a new connection is made, like this:
sockets.put(newSocket.getInetAddress().getHostAddress(), newSocket);
Then i can get the socket(so i can get the OutputStream and answer) calling an static method like this:
public static Socket getSocket(String IP) {
Socket RequestedSocket;
RequestedSocket = sockets.get(IP);
return RequestedSocket;
}
But i want you to tell me if there is a better way of doing this, better than storing all of those sockets in a list/hashmap. How can i get those objects without reference variables ? Or maybe thats a good way of doing it and im just trying to overpass the limits.
P.S.: I tried to store the Client objects in the database, serializing them, but the sockets can't be serialized.
Thanks.
This is a design issue for you. You will need to keep track of them somewhere, one solution might be to simply create a singleton class [SocketMapManager] for instance that holds the hashmap, so that you can access it statically from other classes. http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-04-2003/jw-0425-designpatterns.html
Any solution that tells you to keep a reference to the socket/ connection/ stream is bad -> as that means your connections are going to be held up while the server does its work.
You have a couple of options open
1. have the clients act as servers too. when they connect, they give the server their IP, port and some secret string as part of the hand shake. This means you have control over client code to make this happen.
the servers have a protocol to either take new jobs or check status of old jobs. Client pools the server periodically.
clients connect to database or other application (web service or plain socket like the original app) that connects to data base to get the status of the job. Meaning server gives client a job id.
a socket is open then it one OS resource open. can read up Network Programming: to maintain sockets or not?
All depends on
1. how many client connect at a time/ in 5 minutes.
2. how many seconds/ minutes does one client's request take to process
if number of clients in 5 minutes is maximum (in next 3 years) 300 at a time/ in any 5 minute duration and each request takes at a max 50 seconds to process then a dedicated server with max 50,000 sockets should suffice. Else you need async or more servers (and a DNS/ web server/ port forwarding or other method for load balance)
I'm having a bit of a problem trying to understand what is the flow of the operations, and what exactly you have at disposition. Is this sequence correct?
1. client writes to database (delphi)
2. client writes to server (delphi)
3. server writes to database (java)
4. server writes to client (java)
5. client reads database (delphi)
And the problem is pass 4?
More important: you are saying that there isn't a socket in the Client class, and that you don't have a list of Client too?
Are you able to use the reflection to search/obtain a socket reference from Client?
If you say you don't have the socket, how could it be that you can add that socket in a HashMap?
Last but not least: why do you need to store the socket? Maybe every client opens one connection which is used for multiple requests?
It could be beautiful if all the answers could be conveyed to just one ip:port...